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Offline jjorgensen

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Max discharge rate?
« on: May 31, 2010, 06:49:59 PM »
Someone may have already answered this, but I can't seem to find it. My question is, why a 3S 15C battery runs less rpm than a 3S 20C? The prop charts on this scorpion 3008 32 say motor kv 1086 rpm per volt, so if the voltage is the same, one would think (one who doesn't know better) that the rpm should be the same, but I see a big difference. I am running a Will H. timer set to 80 percent on an inexpensive BP ESC. I am planning on going to a new setup for next year, thinking 4S3000 or 4S4000 for the turnigy 35 48 - 900 motor but don't know whether I need more than 15C.
Jim Jorgensen

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Re: Max discharge rate?
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2010, 05:18:17 AM »
Jim

It sounds like you are running up against possibly two issues. One could be the C rating of your packs. The other could be what I have recently run into with Turnigy packs, packs that do not put out the advertised power. Look also at your volts per cell after charging. Are you at 4.2? I found many of mine would not get there. I ran into it with 3000 mah 4 and 5S turnigy flightmax packs at 20C in my T-Rex. Went to Rhino 3700 mah 4S packs and found problem solved. Thanks to Rick Sawicki for recommending the solution.

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Re: Max discharge rate?
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2010, 06:35:59 AM »
Hello Jim,
In general, the higher the "C" rating of a cell, the lower the series electrical resistance of that cell will be. Once current flows, this series resistance results in a voltage drop within the cell itself. This produces the difference in voltage you actually see at the motor and the resulting RPM difference. You can easily see a 10% drop!

For a 6-minute Stunt flight, consuming 75% of battery capacity, you are running 7.5C average current, and the peaks and valleys in current consumption are right about 10C and 5C.
Good quality 15 C batteries suffice nicely.
20 and 25C batteries are desirable, but both additional battery capacity and "C" rating all cost more weight. You have to compare carefully.

On top of that, one manufacturer's 15-C rating is not always the same as another. Price is not always a good indicator.
As Bob says, recommendations from those you trust are helpful.

best regards,
 Dean P.
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Re: Max discharge rate?
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2010, 10:29:00 AM »
That definitely helps explain it. I was getting at least a 10% drop in rpm. I hate it that buying batteries is such a cr*p shoot. Sometimes you don't "get what you paid for."
Jim Jorgensen


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