Author Topic: Early Christmas :-))))) (Read 16853 times)

Igor Burger · « **Reply #50 on:** January 05, 2011, 06:00:47 AM »

Jim, the kit is available (produced in Czech) I think it will be difficult and expensive to send one piece oversea, but for sure, you can use knife and foam plate, corel drawing is available :-)) ... Alberto did it the same way.

Or Try to convert some F3AI (F3P) model for C/L also not so complicated. The prick is proper power train, and little bit different trimmimg.

Jose Luis Oterino · « **Reply #51 on:** January 05, 2011, 01:28:57 PM »

Hi all
Here is the plan...
http://www.jpaeromodels.com/planosvuelocircular/Electricos.htm
Aaaaaadios

Jim Moffatt · « **Reply #52 on:** January 08, 2011, 06:55:53 PM »

Thanks Igor and Jose!

Igor Burger · « **Reply #53 on:** January 12, 2011, 05:04:04 AM »

Guys from Hradec Kralove (Czech) make probably forst indoor stunt contest 26-27 feb. 2011. It will include some workshop, so if anyone is close enough, just come, I expect lot of fun :- )))))

Dean Pappas · « **Reply #54 on:** January 12, 2011, 08:46:23 AM »

Bravo!!! to our friends in Hradec Kralove.

Dean P.

Jose Luis Oterino · « **Reply #55 on:** January 12, 2011, 11:33:30 AM »

2550 km and 22 hours driving distance us ... hmmm. It is tempting.

How many gee bee models is predicted to fly in competition?
Aaaaadios

Igor Burger · « **Reply #56 on:** January 12, 2011, 02:07:35 PM »

Jose, distance is not problem for this event ... you can fly by airplane and bulid model evening before contest

no, realy ... I have no idea, they plan to make also beginner class and local semiscales ... everything could be the same model as the difference is little modified profile of fuselage and wing area :- )))))))

I know right now aproximatly 10 modes here in Slovakia and Czech, plus some in poland and austria. I expect most of them will come, but you know this kind of model can disapear in second (as any othem model) but also apear in just one evening, so nobody knows, we will see :-))) ... however you are right, traveling 2500km is not fun and costs money.

Jose Luis Oterino · « **Reply #57 on:** January 12, 2011, 03:27:30 PM »

Well...10 models is very good.

In the future, in my club, we would like to organize a bee gee cup ... I'm promoting indoor acrobatics in Spain ...
Is in Spanish

... but... this is my article in my blog.

http://adarvueltas.blogspot.com/2011/01/gee-bee-r3-un-modelo-de-acrobacia-vc.html

Dean Pappas · « **Reply #58 on:** January 13, 2011, 11:49:45 AM »

Quote from: Jose Luis Oterino on January 12, 2011, 11:33:30 AM

2550 km and 22 hours driving distance us ... hmmm. It is tempting.
How many gee bee models is predicted to fly in competition?
Aaaaadios

I drive that far for domestic contests!

best regards,
Dean P.

Jose Luis Oterino · « **Reply #59 on:** January 13, 2011, 02:34:23 PM »

Yes, but your country is 15 times bigger than mine ...

I live in Madrid, and the longest distance to any point in my country is 700km (400mi)

Igor Burger · « **Reply #60 on:** January 13, 2011, 03:46:32 PM »

and gallon does not cost 10USD

I have it only 200km and it is another country speaking another language

hmm does not matter ... I have 3 other countries in radius of 50km speaking 3 other languages, and 2 of them have border 10km from my house

Igor Burger · « **Reply #61 on:** January 14, 2011, 01:42:34 PM »

it is going to be serious contest :- ))))))

look the cup:

Dean Pappas · « **Reply #62 on:** January 15, 2011, 07:54:52 PM »

Quote from: Jose Luis Oterino on January 13, 2011, 02:34:23 PM

Yes, but your country is 15 times bigger than mine ...
I live in Madrid, and the longest distance to any point in my country is 700km (400mi)

Ahora mismo, me estoy muy celoso!
Saludos,
Dean

Igor Burger · « **Reply #63 on:** January 17, 2011, 09:56:44 AM »

flying under too low ceing

and over too high ground :- )))))

(Sorry, I did a mistake and posted this message in wrong thread, so I am posting again and deleting there)

Igor Burger · « **Reply #64 on:** February 01, 2011, 04:22:18 AM »

... hmmm ... well ...

Jose Luis Oterino · « **Reply #65 on:** February 01, 2011, 09:59:54 AM »

Wooowww...

Impressive.
I thought do something similar.but...he it is a true kamikaze

Igor Burger · « **Reply #66 on:** February 01, 2011, 10:26:33 AM »

And he says he LANDED

cecret is, that he replaced the timer by a R/C receiver and friend helped him to stop motor in proper moment, but anyway ...

Bill Little · « **Reply #67 on:** February 01, 2011, 11:01:53 AM »

Hi Igor,

I am jealous! The reasons: I have to drive over 100 miles just to get to a site that is dedicated to C/L flying, and there are only two in my "state"! Both about the same distance from here.

You guys seem to be always having "FUN" and a lot of participation. The scene in that picture doesn't seem to happen around here anymore. People in suits and ties, etc., and enjoying the event. Maybe some clubs in a part of the country I don't know about still have those types of events here. But America seems to have sped up to the point that internet communication is about all that happens outside of the retired guys in Arizona! LOL!!

Either way I would fly there, for that meet, (if I had to money! LOL!!) just to experience it!

Thanks
Bill

Igor Burger · « **Reply #68 on:** February 15, 2011, 06:27:02 AM »

another one

Keith Renecle · « **Reply #69 on:** February 16, 2011, 05:48:45 AM »

Quote from: Igor Burger on February 15, 2011, 06:27:02 AM

another one

Looks like someone liked my drawing of the DR1. That's wonderful!

Keith R

bob branch · « **Reply #70 on:** February 18, 2011, 05:25:36 PM »

Could someone tell me the thickness of depron you are using for the Gee Bees?

bob branch

Jose Luis Oterino · « **Reply #71 on:** February 19, 2011, 01:34:31 AM »

Hi...
All deprom is 3 mm.

Igor Burger · « **Reply #72 on:** February 28, 2011, 12:55:32 AM »

So the contest was after all great ... many models, more contestant then we used to have outdoor. Many new c/l people, many of them returned from retirement and also some R/Cs arrived to "try it" again :-)))

I counted aproximately 30 models, 11 F2B contestant and 13 beginners, including 3 juniors.

Probably world first indoor c/l F2B contest? :-))))

bob branch · « **Reply #73 on:** February 28, 2011, 05:13:29 AM »

Igor

Very cool! I finished the airframe on one of your Gee Bees blown up from plans on your web site yesterday. This week I hope to get the power system in and fly next week. Very neat looking bird. Thanks,

bob branch

Alberto Solera · « **Reply #74 on:** February 28, 2011, 09:31:48 AM »

30 models!
I am sure you had a great time

Igor Burger · « **Reply #75 on:** March 01, 2011, 12:47:14 AM »

Igor Burger · « **Reply #76 on:** March 08, 2011, 01:57:37 AM »

more pictures from that action

http://picasaweb.google.com/controlline.sk/GeeBeeCupPardubice2011#

Keith Renecle · « **Reply #77 on:** March 09, 2011, 12:12:17 AM »

Hi Igor, Thanks for the pictures. Just two questions please. Who is the old guy with the fuzzy face and red shirt holding the cup? What is in the cup??

Thanks.

Keith R

Igor Burger · « **Reply #78 on:** March 09, 2011, 12:45:13 AM »

Hmmm .. the cap is empty ... as usual ... I always ask them the same question when I win something (look to attached picture also empty) ... they give me new and new cup, but always empty

and that mysteriouse man? I really do not know. He is invisible, he lives with me home, I see him only sometimes in the mirror (something like vampire, but opposite, invisible in real word, but visible in the mirror), I even stopped shawing, so I do not see that ugly face, but I am surprised, last time I saw him, he did not have beard.

He is on the photo probably because it was camera with a mirror

...

Keith Renecle · « **Reply #79 on:** March 09, 2011, 04:50:31 AM »

Aaaaah..........O.K. now I can see it is you! Maybe if you put some holes in your jeans (very fashionable!) then the organizers would feel sorry for you and put something to drink into the cups!

Keth R

Igor Burger · « **Reply #80 on:** March 09, 2011, 04:56:57 AM »

Holes in jeans? no way, such a fassion is too expensive, I have only those cheap from china ...

PerttiMe · « **Reply #81 on:** March 09, 2011, 05:15:33 AM »

I was thinking that R3 might work outdoors too, maybe built with thicker material, more power and longer lines.

Crist Rigotti · « **Reply #82 on:** January 10, 2013, 07:05:47 PM »

Quote from: Igor Burger on November 14, 2010, 05:02:19 AM

Yes, that is exactly plan used for that model, with some small modiffications resulting from practice. That kit makse sense only in case that you want pretty model (colors are most expensive part of the kit), or if you do not want to play with that hardware.

If I remember well, that plan has somewhere some mistake, but you will see.

Igor,
What was the mistake on the plan?

Crist Rigotti · « **Reply #83 on:** January 10, 2013, 07:06:54 PM »

Quote from: Alberto Solera on November 14, 2010, 09:38:20 AM

OK, I will check the plan before starting.
only one more question, what are the measurements of the bellcrank? it looks quite big

thanks

Alberto,
Do you remember what the mistake on the plan was?
Thanks.

Crist Rigotti · « **Reply #84 on:** January 10, 2013, 09:52:33 PM »

I think I found it. The aft locating slot in the lower fuselage for the LG brace is a 1/2 slot too far forward. Also the brace from the LG to the wing needs to be reshaped. It overhangs the LE of the wing.

Igor Burger · « **Reply #85 on:** January 11, 2013, 12:50:33 AM »

Yes Christ, it was something with landing gears or those braces.

Crist Rigotti · « **Reply #86 on:** January 11, 2013, 05:50:53 AM »

Thank you Igor.

Does the model use the 4 degrees of downthrust?

I'm guessing that the elevator pushrod is 2 mm?

Igor Burger · « **Reply #87 on:** January 11, 2013, 05:56:10 AM »

yes it needs LOT of downthrust, but you will see, simply be prepared to adjust offset depending on prop.

pushrod is 2mm carbon rod which fits to those stoppers with screw ... tube is not good idea because screw will damage it, but if you want it lighter, then you can use tube and fill its end by resin and it will last that pressure

Crist Rigotti · « **Reply #88 on:** January 11, 2013, 06:45:17 AM »

Quote from: Igor Burger on January 11, 2013, 05:56:10 AM

yes it needs LOT of downthrust, but you will see, simply be prepared to adjust offset depending on prop.

pushrod is 2mm carbon rod which fits to those stoppers with screw ... tube is not good idea because screw will damage it, but if you want it lighter, then you can use tube and fill its end by resin and it will last that pressure

Great! Thank yopu for the prompt reply Igor.

BTW, congrats on your world's victory.

Igor Burger · « **Reply #89 on:** January 11, 2013, 07:24:12 AM »

:- )) thanks

Scott Redlin · « **Reply #90 on:** February 16, 2013, 08:58:34 AM »

Igor,

Is there any chance that the Gee Bee will be produced in kit form again as you did in the earlier posts in this thread? If so I would be interested in trying one. Thanks.

Igor Burger · « **Reply #91 on:** February 16, 2013, 09:06:07 AM »

I do not think only chance I think it is reality ... but I am not proper person to speak to ... I hope proper person will write something soon, because I am sure reading ... :- )))

Tania Uzunova · « **Reply #92 on:** February 16, 2013, 12:20:26 PM »

Yes : )
That 's right I am reading and thanks for that...
Now I can post already official web site of Gee Bee! There you can find information and see a little bit surprise, hope you like it : ))

www.indoorgeebee.com

Igor Burger · « **Reply #93 on:** February 16, 2013, 01:24:00 PM »

... I wrote it already - color magician : - )))))))))))) ... and now I see also autodeskinventor magician :- )))

when we can start ordering? :- )))))))

jason Pearson · « **Reply #94 on:** March 08, 2013, 05:56:55 PM »

Quote from: Igor Burger on November 05, 2010, 02:21:11 PM

All - fuselage, landing gears and also motor are aout 15 degrees, so all of that gives line tension. The speed 5s/lap on 5m long lines gives only half of necessary line tension, so the rest comes from that extreme yaw. The side area front of CG is designed so that the yaw is kept constant even with rudder in neutral. Proper side trim (lo guid is fixed and not movable) is achieved only by positioning of those aerodynamical brakers, or motor to fuselage offset. Typically all of that coul be in neutral, but it is still possible to do small changes.

Is the Gee Bee than not straight building , everythign is 15 degrees to the out side ? ot with the 15 degree rake on the lines it flys 15 degrees out ? When I build it should I build it straight with the down thrust and be OK .

Crist Rigotti · « **Reply #95 on:** March 08, 2013, 06:14:42 PM »

Quote from: jason Pearson on March 08, 2013, 05:56:55 PM

Is the Gee Bee than not straight building , everythign is 15 degrees to the out side ? ot with the 15 degree rake on the lines it flys 15 degrees out ? When I build it should I build it straight with the down thrust and be OK .

Yes.

Igor Burger · « **Reply #96 on:** March 09, 2013, 06:10:30 AM »

... little bit late because we have indoor contest right now ... but again - yes

Crist Rigotti · « **Reply #97 on:** March 09, 2013, 09:47:25 AM »

Quote from: Igor Burger on March 09, 2013, 06:10:30 AM

... little bit late because we have indoor contest right now ... but again - yes

Good luck at the contest, to you and everybody! Have fun.

Igor Burger · « **Reply #98 on:** March 11, 2013, 02:59:44 AM »

thankx, yes we had lot of fun ... unfortunately I crashed in last flight ... 10cm before landing ... to the camera which was in the circle

... so for next year I must prepare new model ... and I have two reasons ... the second reason will be clear soon

Igor Burger · « **Reply #99 on:** March 11, 2013, 08:16:02 AM »

from contest :- ))

all contestants and judges + CD stuff

results:

http://pavel.macek.hk/CL_Calendar/2013/Results/CZE-361.pdf

Paul Winter flew it first time (git model at 8:00 the day of conest starting at 10:00) and he placed 9th ... great ( must be great, he is from Great Britain :-))) )