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Online Chris_Burgess

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External motor cuts
« on: March 08, 2012, 04:10:42 PM »
I am wondering if anyone has tried to create a remotely controlled motor kill switch? My thought is that if an ecl airplane is going to crash while the motor is running that for safety purposes it would be helpful to have a remotely controlled kill switch that could be used to kill power to a motor in the event of a crash to stop possible damage to the motor or to kill power to it to avoid injury if the plane crashes... just a thought.

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Re: External motor cuts
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2012, 04:18:48 PM »
most ESCs have a built in current overload switch that does just that - if the amps spike over a certain point - the system shuts down -

in the even of a prop strike - the system will shut down also - I ahve had this happen with my systems - although one spiked over 100amps through a 50smp ESC and the ESC caught fire.  - the motor shut down tho - so no issues with that.

if its going in - its going in too - you cant shut off an IC motor if its "going" to crash
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Re: External motor cuts
« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2012, 07:52:30 PM »
Chris,

Luckily its not an IC motor and you can have a pilot controlled kill switch.  You may not be able to react fast enough if a crash is happening but the added safety to be able to stop the motor if something unexpected happens is such a huge bonus it should be mandatory.  It's so easy to add the circuitry with electric power.  My suggestion is Clancy Arnold's U/Tronics Control system.   Look below in Vendors Corner

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Re: External motor cuts
« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2012, 10:32:55 PM »
No! No! NO!  Besides it is my understanding that the KR timer has this already built in and most scale ship have motor controll.

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Re: External motor cuts
« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2012, 10:53:40 PM »
Hi Chris,
John is correct here. The KR Governor timer works by monitoring the rpm all the timer, so I set a trigger point and if the rpm goes below that it puts the system into low throttle mode. This usually prevents the motor and esc from burning out. It also helps with a battery that drops in voltage as well. Some esc's have better low voltage detection than others, just like Wynn mentioned for the over-current setting. I put this feature into my system after burning out 3 Jeti Spin esc's. This was rather costly!

My timer system was also aimed at the beginner as well, and of course they will prang a lot when learning. You don't want them to burn out stuff like the motor and esc all the time. Just one thing that I need to point out is that this feature only works when the governor kicks in. When the system starts up it takes just a few seconds to get up to speed and then the governor kicks in. If you fly in long grass I always recommend someone holding the model until the motor is up to speed just in case the prop snags the grass.

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Re: External motor cuts
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2012, 02:59:22 AM »
I am wondering if anyone has tried to create a remotely controlled motor kill switch? My thought is that if an ecl airplane is going to crash while the motor is running that for safety purposes it would be helpful to have a remotely controlled kill switch that could be used to kill power to a motor in the event of a crash to stop possible damage to the motor or to kill power to it to avoid injury if the plane crashes... just a thought.

I think that's a good idea.  I intend to do it with a little RC receiver.  I'll bet you could even have it at a contest if you didn't turn it on except for an emergency.  What's an easy, light way to add this feature?
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Re: External motor cuts
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2012, 03:21:26 AM »
I was thinking about it for a long time.... Itīs a excelent idea when something happens into the field, as It happened with me one time... a DOG was able to pass the fence when airborne.....

Maybe Wil or Keith could built a time with a remote shutoff?????

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Re: External motor cuts
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2012, 12:09:25 PM »
Hi Rodrigo,

Nice to hear from you again. My new timers have an extra input/output socket, that I allowed for to make things like that. I've just made a timer for Wynn Robins for retracts. I could use the same port for a remote link. My intention was to also have the ability to set the rpm in flight. One of our club members did this a while ago by just buying a cheap 2.4 GHz radio system from Hobby Kings and linking it into his timer. I think that he bought the TX and RX for about $20.00. So it can be done.

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