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Title: Can motor bearings be replaced?
Post by: Andrew Borgogna on April 19, 2011, 11:19:59 AM
I have an Arrowind motor and I think the bearings are going bad.  It's the motor in my Pathfinder, my question is changing the bearing something we can do?  I think I can get the replacement bearing from Boca Bearing in Florida.  I have been getting engine bearings from these people for many years and they are very dependable.  Anyway any and all information regarding this subject will be greatly appreciated.
Andy
Title: Re: Can motor bearings be replaced?
Post by: Crist Rigotti on April 19, 2011, 11:23:01 AM
Check out this video.  My guess it can be applied to your motor as well.  I've changed bearings in my Scorpions and it is very easy, especially after watching the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RJQfbzXNjQ
Title: Re: Can motor bearings be replaced?
Post by: Dennis Toth on April 19, 2011, 03:53:13 PM
Good stuff Chris, thanks for the link.

Best,         DennisT
Title: Re: Can motor bearings be replaced?
Post by: John Rist on April 19, 2011, 03:59:39 PM
Good stuff Chris, thanks thanks from me also for the link.

 H^^   H^^

Title: Re: Can motor bearings be replaced?
Post by: Andrew Borgogna on April 19, 2011, 07:16:15 PM
Thanks Crist for the link, that's what I was looking for.
Andy
Title: Re: Can motor bearings be replaced?
Post by: Crist Rigotti on April 19, 2011, 07:22:09 PM
Scorpion has a other "How to Do" videos.  They are all worth watching.
Title: Re: Can motor bearings be replaced?
Post by: Dennis Adamisin on April 19, 2011, 08:21:32 PM
Outrunner bearings change-out much easier than IC bearings!
Title: Re: Can motor bearings be replaced?
Post by: John Witt on May 05, 2011, 07:37:26 PM
I've changed the bearings a couple of times in various motors, but if you're using the Turnigy or such motors in the common sizes for stunt, it's almost not worth the trouble.  Motors from Hobby King cost very little more than the bearings alone from the LHS.  Haven't priced them from Boca tho. 

If you have a setup and a motor you are happy with, however, it maybe worth changing the bearings just to keep the motor with a kV you like.

FWIW,

John
Title: Re: Can motor bearings be replaced?
Post by: Andrew Borgogna on May 05, 2011, 07:50:47 PM
The motor I am using is a Aerowind, but here is what I think is going on.  The motor heats up during a flight and the bearings tighten up a bit.  Once the bearings cool down the bearings free up and turn smoothly.  I have been monitoring the power consumption and it is not rising, at least so far.  This may be just how it is with the less expensive motors.  If the power consumptions starts to rise that points to bad bearings, but if it remains constant it just points to the bearings are behaving as designed.  I don't want to say cheap, that's not fair, they are doing exactly what they are advertised to do.  They are giving good value, and that's that.  I have set up a spread sheet to monitor and record the power consumption over time, I need more data points before I can be sure what is happening.
Andy
Title: Re: Can motor bearings be replaced?
Post by: Crist Rigotti on May 05, 2011, 08:44:20 PM
I think what is happening is that as the motor heats up, it expands and puts pressure on the bearings in the thrust axis.  I would loosen up the retaining collar a lttle bit so that there is a small amount of end play of the shaft.  This way when the motor heats up the end play is taken up by the expansion and the bearings aren't "pinched".
Title: Re: Can motor bearings be replaced?
Post by: Dennis Adamisin on May 05, 2011, 11:05:55 PM
Andrew - did this problem show up after your prop-strike accident?  The jostling may have moved things around a little or even bent the shaft?  The AW does not have a collar but you can adjust the endplay by loosening the set-screw in the bell and move the shaft & circlip a smidgen or two...
Title: Re: Can motor bearings be replaced?
Post by: Andrew Borgogna on May 06, 2011, 12:53:17 PM
Hi Dennis
No the symptom has been there long before the prop strike.  The strike happened while the plane was near level in grass and it threw off the battery so no smoke damage was done to the motor or the ESC.  By the way, got my Brodak magazine yesterday now I know what you look like.  I haven't had a chance to read the articles yet but I will.
Andy
Title: Re: Can motor bearings be replaced?
Post by: Dennis Adamisin on May 06, 2011, 03:26:31 PM
Hi Dennis
No the symptom has been there long before the prop strike.  The strike happened while the plane was near level in grass and it threw off the battery so no smoke damage was done to the motor or the ESC.  By the way, got my Brodak magazine yesterday now I know what you look like.  I haven't had a chance to read the articles yet but I will.
Andy


Hmmm CLW likes to print a pix of the author with the article - in my case the ugly truth.  I submitted a photo in shades and goofyhat to spare the reader any undue eye-stress...