Has anyone purchased and evaluated the new BadAss motors from Innov8tine Designs?  Please share your reviews. I’m particularly interested in comparison with Cobra and E-Flite motors.

    I have 2 , I flew one 7 times already ( BadAss 2826-690Kv Brushless Motor) in a Genesis Extreme. It works great!!!  These motors are basically a cross between the Scorpion and the Cobra motors that Innov8tive developed and marketed. The have the higher temperature winding  and  magnets of the Scorpions mated with the better bearings of the Cobra motors. There looks to be a few gram weight penalty with the Badass compared to the equivalent Cobra, I doubt that would matter in most cases. . If your system is set up properly , I doubt it would make any difference in most cases which one you were to choose.
   I also have the 3515-710kv. Haven't put it in a plane yet. It looks well made too and I'm sure it will work well when I do eventually use it.
   Cobra, Scorpion, Badass, E-Flite all work for us, pick the one that best suits your needs and use it.

William,
Does the BA 2826 motor run as hot as the Cobra 2826?  This was my big reason to go to the Cobra 3515 motors.

Crist,
   It's hard to say for sure at this point, its  been cool here. I much prefer the 3515 motors for the same reason as you. This 56oz plane fly's on a Hubin timer,6cell 2800mah battery and a 3 blade 11" Ressinger prop. I just don't have room in that plane for the 3515 or I would have one in that plane.  This plane is not flown very often as it was Kevin's main plane when he was flying. I decided to use it as a test bed for this motor since he hasn't used it in a few years. My gut feeling is that if you need a 2826 sized motor in a plane that's around 60oz, this will do the trick safely. This motor is also rear mounted so not sure how much of a difference if any that is making. More testing and with different set ups still needs to be done.

Thanks Will.  I was just wondering if you noticed.  All the best.

I bought BadAss 3515/710 to replace COBRA 3520/14 where in the specs has powers near BadAss a little more and its weight -30gr approximately.

Performance and battery consumption similar to COBRA ending with rotor temperature of 65 ° C and ambient of 30 ° C using 6S and 12x5 propeller 3 blades total aircraft weight at 1,840gr.

Important differences are in the magnets where BadAss follows the stator curvature for greater power.

The price is higher too.


Rogerio Fiorotti

Yup, I choose Plettenberg!  Best of the best!

Got two more coming tomorrow.

15-22s.  New dog will have longer nose and lighter tail.

Thread drift anyone?

Yeah 15 posts so I'm new to this and looking for info on these motors.  But hey... what do I know?

The OP got his answer several times above, BA motors are equal to the task. Thread drift doesn't seem that big of a deal when multiple national and world champ is giving good advise but thanks for your 15th post on this site.

I don't mind a little topic drift, but looks like Plettenberg now has its own thread.
Perhaps I should have provided a little background to my original question.
For those who are relatively new to control line (like my 11 and 13 yr olds) or retreads, encounters with terra firma are possible and not unlikely.  We bring backup equipment to contests: motors, props, ESCs, and airplanes. If we start buying Plettenbergs in these quantities at nearly $200 a piece, we should qualify for a free 3-piece suit, not just a polo shirt!
So the goal is to identify a motor with decent performance at a reasonable quality and price point. In the 2019 season we've given Axi motors a chance, but we're disappointed with some quality issues and high winding resistance leading to heat related losses.
So far the only quasi-quantitative feedback came from Rogerio, who was able to drop one size compared to Cobra while maintaining battery consumption and dropping over an ounce in the process. This points to better efficiency, possibly due to curved magnets.  If the posted Rm numbers are to be trusted, heat might still be an issue, unlike in Scorpions - which have about half the resistance of other comparable motors, but... tiny bearings, unfortunately.
And of course the BA motors are too new for anyone to know whether the Indonesian bearings will last at least one season.