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Title: AXI source?
Post by: John Rist on September 13, 2011, 07:50:17 AM
What is the best (cheapest) source for an AXI motor. I am looking to buy a AXI 2826/10.   :P
Title: Re: AXI source?
Post by: Tim Wescott on September 13, 2011, 08:43:04 AM
I don't know about the best, but Hobby Lobby seems to be AXI motor central in the USA.

http://www.hobby-lobby.com/axi_gold_series_277_ctg.htm
Title: Re: AXI source?
Post by: WhittleN on September 13, 2011, 08:56:35 AM
John
I found they all charge about the same but I have used Hobby-Lobby a couple of times.  Call to see if they are in stock.

After reading some of Christ’s posts, I have also been using the Scorpion SII 3026 -710 from Go Brushless - they have a SII 3026 -890 that would be an equivalent to the AXI 2826-10 (4 cell).  Very good performance from the Scorpion motor and great service from GoBrushless.com.  Parts are readily available - if you have read recent threads you might be interested in that too.
Norm
Title: Re: AXI source?
Post by: John Rist on September 13, 2011, 01:14:51 PM
Are their different grades of AXI motors?  I am seeing pictures of AXI that look different.  See attached photos.
Title: Re: AXI source?
Post by: WhittleN on September 13, 2011, 01:27:01 PM
John
Just looked in the AXI catalog looks like the Gold Line is all there is.  I did notice a more "plain" looking motor (like your picture) in the accessory section.  This could be an older picture of a motor from a couple of years ago.

Norm
Title: Re: AXI source?
Post by: William DeMauro on September 13, 2011, 06:10:55 PM
I too used the Scorpion 3026-890 in my SV 22 and have had 110 flights with no issues. I put over 260 flights on my SV 11 on Scorpions also. The Power 25 from E-Flite is also another very good and basically equivalent option.
Title: Re: AXI source?
Post by: Jim Howell on September 13, 2011, 08:05:50 PM
John
Just looked in the AXI catalog looks like the Gold Line is all there is.  I did notice a more "plain" looking motor (like your picture) in the accessory section.  This could be an older picture of a motor from a couple of years ago.

Norm


John, Norm,

Along those lines, some years back, Hobby Lobby offered both AXI Gold and AXI Silver versions of some motors.  I bought two or three of the Silver versions of some motors that I was using for Old Timer R/C.  I couldn't tell any difference, but I admit that I wasn't pushing any of them as hard as the motors are pushed today.  (It could have been as much as 10 years back, don't rightly remember.)  I haven't seen any of the lesser grade Silvers offered by HL in several years.

Jim Howell
Huntsville, AL
Title: Re: AXI source?
Post by: Robertc on September 14, 2011, 08:28:00 AM
My first AXI 2826/10 looked like the bottom pic and the next two looked like the top picture.  To me, they are the same motor.
The top picture is just the newest graphics. 
Title: Re: AXI source?
Post by: Peter Nevai on September 14, 2011, 09:02:21 AM
The latest Scorpion motors. THe link to their website.

http://www.scorpionsystem.com/catalog/motors/ (http://www.scorpionsystem.com/catalog/motors/)
Title: Re: AXI source?
Post by: John Rist on September 14, 2011, 10:57:41 AM
I am now looking at the OS 3825-750.  Supposedly it can swing a 12x8E at around 11K on a 4S LiPo.  It is the same size as my Turnigy C3548 -900.  My Turnigy is swinging an 11x5.5 at around 10 to 11K (per a tack reading).  It runs cool.  I am guessing that the OS will pull harder. It will probably also pull more current.  However I am only using 55% of my 3000 ma pack as it is.  The down side is that the OS is a rear mount only.  I was thinking of flipping to a front mount but this is not possible wit the OS.  However the Turnigy I am replacing is a rear mount motor so the swap will be easy. I am looking for a better motor for my LA-5 for two reasons - More power and the ability to handle a spinner.  Just looking at the OS 3825 I believe it will do this very nicely.  Now for the point of this post - The cost at my LHS and or at Tower is $80.  This price is $20 to $40 less then comparable AXI etc motors.

The other interesting feature is that It is listed as a 3 ball bearing motor. A good thing I would suspect.  Looking at my Turnigy motor I can see the two ball bearings - one on each end of the shaft.  Where is the 3rd baring in a 3 bearing motor?  Is it simply a double ball bearing on the prop end of the OS?

Anyway at $80 bucks at my LHS this seems to be a no brainier.  n~
Title: Re: AXI source?
Post by: Tim Wescott on September 14, 2011, 11:26:27 AM
The other interesting feature is that It is listed as a 3 ball bearing motor. A good thing I would suspect.  Looking at my Turnigy motor I can see the two ball bearings - one on each end of the shaft.  Where is the 3rd baring in a 3 bearing motor?  Is it simply a double ball bearing on the prop end of the OS?
It's a bearing around the other end of the bell, to prevent the magnets from rubbing the armature when everything is getting deflected from gyroscopic forces.  Here's a picture of a Plettenburg with the 3rd bearing:
http://www.plettenberg-motoren.com/UK/Motoren/schnitt_orbit.htm
Title: Re: AXI source?
Post by: John Rist on September 14, 2011, 12:54:18 PM
It's a bearing around the other end of the bell, to prevent the magnets from rubbing the armature when everything is getting deflected from gyroscopic forces.  Here's a picture of a Plettenburg with the 3rd bearing:
http://www.plettenberg-motoren.com/UK/Motoren/schnitt_orbit.htm

Ok that's impressive! If OS really does have 3 bearings in the OS 3825-750 it's a heck of a deal at $80.  The problem when you try and run a spinner on a Turnigy motor is the bell starts to vibrate as the motor comes up to speed. Their is a fair amount of flexing in a Turnigy because of it's small shaft and two small bearings.  I will post results when and if get the OS.