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Offline frank carlisle

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A push /pull sport stunt model
« on: December 02, 2006, 02:17:43 PM »
I'll be using Dick Sarpolus plans (modified for in line props)  for a Fokker D-23-a foam Nobler wing- and an Axi 2826-10 motor and Poli-quest 3700 mah 2C battery.

What do you think an appropriate prop size would be?  Front and back.
Frank Carlisle

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Re: A push /pull sport stunt model
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2006, 01:08:24 PM »
Hi Frank,
Are you ganging the two on a common shaft?
Counter-rotating? it actually matters.
If they were closely coupled counter-rotators, then the diameter would be almost exactly the same.
Put them far apart, and the diameters would need to be maybe 87% of a single prop.
why? power is proportional to diamter ^5 for all other things equal, so 1/2 power absorbed is 87% diameter.
If they don't counter-rotate, I have no idea, especially as the effective pitch of the back prop will be reduced by the spiral airflow from the front one.
for what little it helps,
Dean
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Re: A push /pull sport stunt model
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2006, 01:26:05 PM »
Dean,
I'm putting the on a common shaft. The distance is 22" from prop tp prop. They'll be rotating in the sme diction. One tractor-one push.
Axi 282610. 3700mah 3c.

Efficiency in this case isn't as important to me as efficacy.(big word hope I used it right).

Sport model , twin boom with Nobler wing.
Frank Carlisle

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Re: A push /pull sport stunt model
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2006, 05:22:07 PM »
Frank is such a trend setter.  For general flying, it may not be an issue, but if you wanted to get a stunt run out of the deal, would there be enough battery on board to swing 2 props for that long? 

Additionally, on a common shaft, would you want to offset the props so that they appear as 4 blades when viewed from the front or rear or would lining them up be better?

So many things to think about.
John Paris
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Offline frank carlisle

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Re: A push /pull sport stunt model
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2006, 05:53:15 PM »
You've already seen the electric Smoothie go John.
I'm thinking this one would be a sport model.
And yes I think the AXi could turn two props. Same difference as putting a downsize 4 blade prop on where a 2 blade prop was.

Jan will be making bearings , shaft and couplings.
Frank Carlisle


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