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Title: 6S 25C 2200 mAh
Post by: Frank Imbriaco on July 04, 2020, 08:57:55 AM
 Any one make them ?

Searched TP, Hobby King, and Buddy RC.

Off course I can use two 3S 25C 2200, but there'd be packaging issues from the clumsy two- into- one connector.
Title: Re: 6S 25C 2200 mAh
Post by: William DeMauro on July 04, 2020, 12:25:58 PM
Frank,
  I'd call TP and ask if they can custom make it for you since their batteries are assembled in the USA( At least I think they are). Worse case put two 3 cell together and solder together and make up an adapter at the balance end only and keep that at the charger so you dont have you carry all that extra wiring. TP is currently running a 30% off sale at the moment Discount code "FREEDOM"
Title: Re: 6S 25C 2200 mAh
Post by: Frank Imbriaco on July 04, 2020, 01:24:47 PM
 Hi Will :
PM sent
Title: Re: 6S 25C 2200 mAh
Post by: Igor Burger on July 04, 2020, 02:03:53 PM
Such Y cables are available, I used them. But it should be installed permanently (and VERY carefully), because it can make short if improperly connected.

https://hobbyking.com/en_us/6s-battery-pack-balance-charge-adapter-lead.html?queryID=639292fa056086057aaf1edc3269ae87&objectID=26353&indexName=hbk_live_magento_en_us_products&___store=en_us
 
Title: Re: 6S 25C 2200 mAh
Post by: Brent Williams on July 04, 2020, 05:43:00 PM
Here's a few.

https://www.horizonhobby.com/GEA22006S45E3?KPID=GEA22006S45E3&CAWELAID=320011980001568439&CAGPSPN=pla&CAAGID=99410521574&CATCI=pla-923772552874&gclid=Cj0KCQjw0YD4BRD2ARIsAHwmKVmZW7O6EpFcGqKLTA92YyyhoqIIyrnxFLlDH4ZR69Vid6XEPpru1fcaAqpYEALw_wcB

https://banggood.app.link/RUI5iQA9Q7
Title: Re: 6S 25C 2200 mAh
Post by: Frank Imbriaco on July 04, 2020, 06:03:30 PM
 Brent :
They're 45C and 65C packs.
25C is what most of us use.
Thx just the same.
Title: Re: 6S 25C 2200 mAh
Post by: jfv on July 04, 2020, 06:52:07 PM
Frank:

These guys will make up custom, 6S, 25C 2200 packs.  I received a quote from the in March: The 25C 2200mah 6S cost $33 / each. Weight is about 330g. Wait time is about one month.

https://www.roaringtopusa.com/
Title: Re: 6S 25C 2200 mAh
Post by: Crist Rigotti on July 04, 2020, 10:55:23 PM
Try China Hobby Line.
https://chinahobbyline.com/index.php?route=product/category&capacit_min=1734&capacit_max=2246&battery_min=6&battery_max=6
Title: Re: 6S 25C 2200 mAh
Post by: Frank Imbriaco on July 06, 2020, 07:39:56 AM
Thx John and Crist
Title: Re: 6S 25C 2200 mAh
Post by: Frank Imbriaco on July 06, 2020, 11:48:25 AM
If you've ever wanted these(or even a 5S 25 C 2200), please contact Kim Quenette at Thunderpower RC @ 702-228-8883 , select option 1.

 Apparently, they must certify each pack size ($) and it'd would help them determine need.

 I tried.
Title: Re: 6S 25C 2200 mAh
Post by: Frank Imbriaco on August 11, 2020, 07:08:11 AM
bump
Title: Re: 6S 25C 2200 mAh
Post by: TDM on August 12, 2020, 06:37:39 AM
Try China Hobby Line.
https://chinahobbyline.com/index.php?route=product/category&capacit_min=1734&capacit_max=2246&battery_min=6&battery_max=6

In my search for a 6s 25C 2200 ish mAh i discovered that they are not very practical. I investigated the option of 2 packs of 3S and the option of actual 6S 2200.

The problem with the 3S is that it take two charging stations to charge for a flight so I passed on that idea since there was no weight savings and added complications, in addition to that they all came either just as heavy or heavier than the TP 6S 2800 .

The problem with the 6S 2200 is that they are made for drones and they are 55C and above rating which makes them heavier that the TP 2800. After flight with the TP 2800 my batteries are at 3.85V per cell which is right in the storage charge window so no post flight storage charge was needed, if i was using the 2200 which are heavier I might have to go store charge the battery after I go out flying. This all got me back to why change? Those batteries are not lighter, they are not easier on me the user since I have to worry about storing charge, I do not have to make an additional purchase so there was no reason for me to pursue them.

To me the only option is to use the recommendation from Jim V wait for the packs and run with it but if they go out of business or you need to renew your stash you are in a pickle because you just painted yourself in a corner.

So what are the alternatives? Up the size and KV of the motor go to 2B light props for more efficiency. All of this will work great on 4S and these options are all very practical and readily available.
Title: Re: 6S 25C 2200 mAh
Post by: Frank Imbriaco on August 12, 2020, 06:55:03 AM
 TDM :
 Suggest you read through all the posts and you'll come to one where I suggest that we reach out to Kim Q. at Thunderpower.

They'll make us 5S or  preferably 6S 2200 mAh 25C if there is demand.

Guarantee they'll be lighter than 6S 2800 and physically smaller for a classic ship.

No, I don't wish to combine in series two 3S 2200s. Weight and packaging issues.

Why wouldn't a 6S 2200 be practical ??? I land after 5:45 sec with 1600-1650 mAh used. Why carry a whole lot more in reserve(with a 2800 mAh) than 2200 mAh ? That's 30% which is well within the safe margin
Title: Re: 6S 25C 2200 mAh
Post by: Mike Alimov on August 12, 2020, 02:19:50 PM
Frank, I've dealt with Kim from TP before for warranty issues and she was very helpful and responsive. I might be interested in 6S 2200 TP packs. Could you detail your setup (plane size, weight, motor, prop, rpm, line length) that gives you the battery consumption quoted above?
Title: Re: 6S 25C 2200 mAh
Post by: Rick_Huff on August 12, 2020, 03:21:10 PM
Frank,
I talked with Kim and told him I was interested in the 2200mah 6s batteries.  He said he'd take it up with his boss, but the cost of certification (as you said) was likely to be prohibitive. 

Rick
Title: Re: 6S 25C 2200 mAh
Post by: Frank Imbriaco on August 12, 2020, 03:44:31 PM
Hi Rick:

Thanks for reaching out to Thunderpower. We need more flyers to do the same.

 Hi Mike : I have a Caprice that flies very nicely with the Hubin system. 4S 2800, Power 15, CC ESC, APC 11 x 5.5 EP. .014 lines 60'.

I'm looking to try an active system . IMO, the battery is the Achille's heal when it comes to using a 5S or 6S in a a Classic (or profile model) if one wants to go with an active system. Weight and size are crucial. Why dump a heavy 5S or 6S 2800 when a smaller mAh will do the job and some?

 Weight, packaging and suitability needs must also be considered when choosing the  ESC, motor and prop.

Currently, there is no readily  and reliably available 5S or 6S 2200 mAH that's 25C. There is a hobby shop in China that claims to have the 2200mAh. But communications with them are at best, murky. I'll stick with TP.

Title: Re: 6S 25C 2200 mAh
Post by: Crist Rigotti on August 12, 2020, 04:42:37 PM
Frank, what is the weight of your Caprice with battery?
Title: Re: 6S 25C 2200 mAh
Post by: Frank Imbriaco on August 13, 2020, 05:22:37 AM
48.7 ounces
Title: Re: 6S 25C 2200 mAh
Post by: Crist Rigotti on August 13, 2020, 09:00:35 AM
48.7 ounces

That's light!
Title: Re: 6S 25C 2200 mAh
Post by: Mark wood on August 14, 2020, 11:37:44 PM

The problem with the 3S is that it take two charging stations to charge for a flight so I passed on that idea since there was no weight savings and added complications, in addition to that they all came either just as heavy or heavier than the TP 6S 2800 .


Paralleling boards are not expensive and you can charge several batteries at once. I routinely charge four 4s 1800 at a time on my charger. The boards are generally less than $20. I wouldn't let that be the thing that makes up my mind for my battery selection.