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Offline Crist Rigotti

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Re: 2016 Electric Stunter Build Log
« Reply #250 on: April 23, 2016, 08:58:36 PM »
Thanks Fred.
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Re: 2016 Electric Stunter Build Log
« Reply #251 on: April 24, 2016, 10:41:21 AM »
Christ, I've only flown in Texas once so far. We have plenty of family and friends in Texas though. Got some trips planned to be out there this year. I hope to meet up with you and the DMAA guys!

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Re: 2016 Electric Stunter Build Log
« Reply #252 on: April 24, 2016, 01:11:29 PM »
Hopefully we can get together!
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Re: 2016 Electric Stunter Build Log
« Reply #253 on: April 24, 2016, 07:27:21 PM »
Crist, it's great to hear the plane is working.   Of course you know  you have some of the best to help you.   H^^
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Re: 2016 Electric Stunter Build Log
« Reply #254 on: April 24, 2016, 08:26:42 PM »
Absolutely Doc!
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Re: 2016 Electric Stunter Build Log
« Reply #255 on: May 07, 2016, 06:59:15 PM »
The last few times out flying, I've been working on the trim for this plane.  Last Thursday I was out and after several trim flights, I decided I didn't like the direction I was headed so I quit and went home.  The plane was flying pronounced tail low, there was a fair amount of "up" elevator all to get that "equal turn on both insides and outsides.  Also when the motor quit, the model had a tendency to float a bit.  Not surprising with the up elevator.  After thinking about the plane I decided to go back to point "zero" and start over.  I centered the elevator to stab with the flaps at neutral and reset my handle back to equal amount for a truly neutral setting on the lines.  And then I added some upthrust.  I added 2 washers to the "top" mounting screw and 1 each washer to the right and left midway mounting screws. 

I then went out this morning and did 5 test flights.  The model was very close on the first flight.  I adjusted the elevator push rod just a little and now I was getting a very near equal turn on both inside and outsides.  The tail was flying very close to being straight both upright and inverted.  A minor handle adjustment for neutral and it was flying very well.  When the motor quits, the model settles into a nice decent and doesn't float like before.

A recap of the big problem I was having was that the model would turn a lot tighter on the outsides than the insides.  When I adjusted the elevator push rod to get equal turns, the elevator was pointing up some and the model flew in a tail down attitude.  Since I reset the controls and handle and added some upthrust, the model is flying very well and in the correct attitude.

I included a picture of the spinner to nose ring to show the amount of upthrust that 2 washers created.  I could have used only 1 washer, but I wanted to be sure that the upthrust was plenty to really see what effect it had on the model.  Here's the kicker -  I used my CAD program to draw in what 2 washers do to the thrust line and it measured out to be........ 3 1/2 degrees of upthrust! 

One thing I learned when flying RC helicopters, was give the helicopter what it needs, not what the "normal" is.  In other words, if the normal high pitch would be 10 degrees to maintain RPM, and your helicopter still revs up, then give it 10 1/2 degrees to get the RPM to stay the same.

I'm leaving it like it is for the next several flying sessions and I'll work on getting into a finer trim now that the model is flying a lot "happier".
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Re: 2016 Electric Stunter Build Log
« Reply #256 on: May 08, 2016, 05:00:55 PM »
Thanks for the up date.  I guess it is true,  trimming is a never ending job. H^^
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Re: 2016 Electric Stunter Build Log
« Reply #257 on: June 07, 2016, 02:21:16 AM »
Another update.  Finally got out to do some more flying.  Put in 5 more flights. I did a minor adjustment to the elevator push rod length, adjusted the LO, and added back in about 1/10 ounce tip weight. 

Starting to get comfortable with the plane.  More flying today and Friday.  Then our contest this weekend.
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Re: 2016 Electric Stunter Build Log
« Reply #258 on: June 07, 2016, 07:25:28 PM »
Six more flights today.  No trim changes.  Just trying to get some handle time.  Starting to feel comfortable.  Still more trimming to do but for right now, I need handle time.
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Re: 2016 Electric Stunter Build Log
« Reply #259 on: October 08, 2020, 12:13:32 PM »
This airplane garnered 17 points at the in both 2019 and 2020 NATS.  I've received many compliments on how nice a model it was.

Today may it rest in peace.

The 2nd loop of the Clover in went in inverted.  Pilot error all the way.

Time to start a new one.
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Re: 2016 Electric Stunter Build Log
« Reply #260 on: October 08, 2020, 12:34:25 PM »
OUCH! It's a sad day when any beautiful ship is lost. :(  But I can't wait to see your next one.  #^

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Re: 2016 Electric Stunter Build Log
« Reply #261 on: October 08, 2020, 03:42:52 PM »
I know what the problem was. You went back to them 2- blade props!

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Re: 2016 Electric Stunter Build Log
« Reply #262 on: October 08, 2020, 03:45:37 PM »
I know what the problem was. You went back to them 2- blade props!

This was the first time I flew it since Cleveland.  The 3 blade will have to wait till the PF is done in a couple of weeks.
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Re: 2016 Electric Stunter Build Log
« Reply #263 on: October 08, 2020, 04:59:05 PM »
That is sad and I never got to see it in person. D>K
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Re: 2016 Electric Stunter Build Log
« Reply #264 on: October 08, 2020, 08:17:52 PM »
This airplane garnered 17 points at the in both 2019 and 2020 NATS.  I've received many compliments on how nice a model it was.

Today may it rest in peace.

The 2nd loop of the Clover in went in inverted.  Pilot error all the way.

Time to start a new one.

Crist,

Sorry to see this, that was a nice plane.

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