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Author Topic: "E" props, "IC" props - "Steam" props? Question  (Read 694 times)

Offline CharlesF

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"E" props, "IC" props - "Steam" props? Question
« on: March 27, 2009, 10:13:22 AM »
Guys

What are "E" props? And why "E" props? I would have thought that the power source type (electric, IC - steam?) would not affect the best prop to use?

I know for my little RC planes I played with a year or two ago I used very light 9x4 and 10x4 props on the little geared motor. But running say 9,000 to 11,000 rpm what the difference between an "E" prop and an "Ordinary" prop?

Charles

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Re: "E" props, "IC" props - "Steam" props? Question
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2009, 11:41:18 AM »
Charles,
It basically is materials science with some aerodynamics added in.

I believe that an efficient prop is a thin prop--but I could be wrong here. But lets say I'm right. So the thinner you can make the prop, the easier it is for the motor/engine to turn the prop. So that is my version of the aerodynamics argument--experts are welcome to chime in here.

However the prop has to hang together. In a glow engine, the power pulses come either every cycle (2 stroking) or every other cycle (4 stroking), so between the pulses, the prop is rotationally slowing down-- a lighter prop for example would slow down more than a heavier prop. That acceleration puts a lot of stress on the blade, so the manufacturers have to increase the blade thickness.

With our electric motors, we are getting ~10-14 (depending on motor type) impulse like pulses per revolution (talking about commutation) so the torque is smoothed out over the entire 360 degrees. That means the prop tends to be running at a more constant revoultion (rpm) level, and isn't being whipsawed around as much as in the glow case. The manufacturer can thin the props down considerably. Most "E" props are noticeably thinner than the glow counterpart. I think that's why they are more efficient (but I have never actually checked this out in a flying model!).

Another way to make a prop thinner is to use stronger materials, which is why I think carbon fiber props are so popular at the high competion levels. It allows the glow engines to turn a larger diameter prop than if you would use a thicker prop. The large diameter prop is what gives you the thrust when the airspeed begins to drop--thrust as a function of airspeed is a steeper falling curve (at a nominal fixed rpm--which is what all the fuss is about using the 75 size glow engines now).


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Re: "E" props, "IC" props - "Steam" props? Question
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2009, 11:45:32 AM »
Ah, that makes sense!

Decades ago I was into team race. We made our own GF props, which were thin. So Jurgen Bartel's props for T/R

Charles


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