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Re: Castle Edge 50
« Reply #25 on: August 06, 2024, 01:49:53 PM »
The Climb/Dive timer is quite easy to set up via bluetooth on your phone, and uses cheapo ESC's.

Yea I’m leaning that way.

I just did another test.
Set the rpm to 10796 - it did tach at over 16k !!!
It also shuttered at ramp up start, not like on the initial push of the button. Never experienced that before.

Something is definitely wrong. Maybe a bad FM9?
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Re: Castle Edge 50
« Reply #26 on: August 06, 2024, 02:56:33 PM »
PROBLEM SOLVED!!!!!

Just for giggles and grins I decided to scroll through the different modes of ESC. There are a few for Phoenix. The some other brands. And then up pops Phoenix NEW high. I read it in the manual Phoenix HIGH and thought that was the setting in the manual.
When scrolling through the list of ESC’s, the NEW high is not listed close to the other Phoenix modes.

It is now working as I would expect it when changing rpms.
Thanks everyone for jumping in and pushing me to think. I like it when I learn something.
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Re: Castle Edge 50
« Reply #27 on: August 06, 2024, 08:59:38 PM »


Hubin Fm9, Phoenix New High for Edge Lite 50
                 Phoenix High RPM for Ice Lite 50


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Re: Castle Edge 50
« Reply #28 on: August 07, 2024, 06:28:32 AM »
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Re: Castle Edge 50
« Reply #29 on: September 23, 2024, 06:54:52 PM »
Paul,
I trust that you have the kV for your motor set right in the settings for the motor and have enough volts to spin at the speed you are looking for.  Setting the battery on the throttle page will help see if you are in the right range.I normally run mine around 10K rpm in relatively light planes, but have run this set up in a 70 ounce SV without issue as well (although it has been a while).  Normally I use the Set RPM mode and preset my  ESC to the speed I desire in #2 a little slower in #1 and a little faster in #3 until I am more familiar with what is needed.  On the FM-9 I use Phoenix set RPM and choose #2 and do a quick hop to see if it is what I am looking for and add or subtract as needed.  Cannot say as I have ever gone back and tached the prop but the RPM has been inline with the setting on the ESC that the FM-9 has selected according to the info downloaded from the ESC.

Will be curious to learn what you find out.  FWIW, I think that there was some discussion on SH from Mike Alimov regarding the throttle RPM in the Phoenix ICE/EDGE not matching up well with what was actually put out.  Do not recall the outcome of that discussion since I generally use the Set RPM settings.

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John

John's recollection is quite correct, and even though this specific issue was solved, I will summarize it for the benefit of others who use the Hubin FM-9 timer.
In summary, when a Castle Talon ESC is being programmed in the Phoenix New High mode, there will be a discrepancy in set RPM vs actual RPM. In order to get the actual RPM out of Talon, the FM-9 programmer needs to be set to the Castle Talon mode. If your programmer doesn't have that mode available, thatmeans it is an older version. It can be updated by ordering a new chip from Will Hubin, replacing the old chip in the programmer box.

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Re: Castle Edge 50
« Reply #30 on: September 24, 2024, 08:34:19 AM »
Well I guess I had the old chip. I couldn’t get the desired Rpm / lap times using the Castle- FM 9 setup.
When going with set rpm settings it really drained the battery.

So maybe I created the battery issue using the set rpm settings.

My fix was a BA ESC and a C&D timer.
But still need a little more battery because the C&D does a speed up at the end. I think I can disable it but I like it to setup the landing. 👍🏼
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Re: Castle Edge 50
« Reply #31 on: September 24, 2024, 11:13:44 AM »
But still need a little more battery because the C&D does a speed up at the end. I think I can disable it but I like it to setup the landing. 👍🏼
What batteries are you using?  I have found that Li-Ion can stand abuse far greater then Lipo.  I regularly use 90% of the mah and keep them charged for days at a time.  The ones I am using now are approaching 100 cycles on some and there are no signs of problems.  My point - keep the full power at the end.  Landings are so much better.  If you are already using Li-Ion - Never mind.

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