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Engine basics => Engine set up tips => Topic started by: Air Ministry . on December 17, 2019, 05:45:35 PM

Title: Piston - Wrist Pin Oilway .
Post by: Air Ministry . on December 17, 2019, 05:45:35 PM
As per thus . Drilling oiling tracts to wrist pin in piston . Any downsides to this ? .

(https://www.mgccyregister.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/XPAGD9pistonb.jpg)
Title: Re: Piston - Wrist Pin Oilway .
Post by: RandySmith on December 17, 2019, 09:07:14 PM
As per thus . Drilling oiling tracts to wrist pin in piston . Any downsides to this ? .

(https://www.mgccyregister.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/XPAGD9pistonb.jpg)

You would  most likely do much better to make the piston, perforated ported, that is cut holes in the skirt that lines up ONLY with the intake ports,  and  only the  intake ports, the fuel charge  will then pass under the piston, thru the  sides, and in doing so will  lubricate the  wrist pin much better than it would normally

Randy
Title: Re: Piston - Wrist Pin Oilway .
Post by: Lauri Malila on December 17, 2019, 11:30:53 PM
Like this, Randy? ..but I thought the 2 small holes won't do any harm.
L
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Title: Re: Piston - Wrist Pin Oilway .
Post by: Reptoid on December 18, 2019, 01:56:41 AM
Like this, Randy? ..but I thought the 2 small holes won't do any harm.
L
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Lauri; I always enjoy looking at the results of your awesome machining skills.

As for oil holes for wrist pin, almost all modern high Performance glow engines have them, as well as, oil holes in top of rod and in strategic locations at bottom of rod to lube crank pin/rod bushing.
Title: Re: Piston - Wrist Pin Oilway .
Post by: Lauri Malila on December 18, 2019, 10:34:27 AM
Looks like the picture in first post is of something slightly bigger than our stuff. That makes it a completely differend story as with small 2-strokes.
In our use, where stability is everything, I would try to avoid any bigger cutouts to improve lubrication/cooling of piston like Randy suggested. That is especially so in ringless ABC's or AAC's.
Seeing lubrication holes for wristpin smells like an attempt to improve something when the problem is actually elsewhere, like in bad materials.
In my case, I use 100% piston scavenging, that's the reason for those big cutouts. But then, I rely on the ring in sealing stability. Even though materials are right, I doubt it would work well without the ring.
L
Title: Re: Piston - Wrist Pin Oilway .
Post by: RandySmith on December 18, 2019, 10:37:49 AM
Like this, Randy? ..but I thought the 2 small holes won't do any harm.
L
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Hi Lauri
Yes nice work, the  piston holes in the side that let the charge come thru the bottom of piston really  lubes  the pin area very well,  anyone that can do the  excellent precision machining you have done, will have no problem, I just wanted to make sure they were being careful, You can ruin a piston if the holes open into the exhaust port
Good work !

Randy
Title: Re: Piston - Wrist Pin Oilway .
Post by: Lauri Malila on December 18, 2019, 10:53:39 AM
Thanks Randy.

My point was, that a healthy engine should not really need holes in piston, better to look other cures first, like materials and finishing quality.
We have learned with T/R engines that holes make quite big heat & strenght gradients. So the negative effects may well counteract the positive ones :)
But there is no universal truth.
L