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Title: Information needed on the Evolution 36cl
Post by: Tommy Swonke on January 03, 2017, 06:43:26 AM
 Is anyone familiar with the Evolution engines ?  I've been checking them out and they look good but are they any good ? Been checking out the Evolution 36cl, I'm Impressed with the AbC (aluminum-brass-chrome) cylinder construction.  
Title: Re: Information needed on the Evolution 36cl
Post by: Steve_Pollock on January 03, 2017, 07:48:59 AM
Check this thread:

http://stunthanger.com/smf/open-forum/evolution-36-37334/
Title: Re: Information needed on the Evolution 36cl
Post by: Dane Martin on January 03, 2017, 09:14:51 AM
Tommy, they are great! Just remember these newer ones are not equal to an old 35 or 36. It's more like an old 45 in power. Maybe more. Put that in a voodoo with an apc 8x8 prop. It'll spin you around for sure!
Title: Re: Information needed on the Evolution 36cl
Post by: Tommy Swonke on January 03, 2017, 09:56:51 AM
Thanks Dane, The Fox 35 is going on the Voodoo and I was considering the 36cl for a future Ringmaster build,  Since you like the 36cl I'll go ahead and get one.


 Thanks again,  Tommy
Title: Re: Information needed on the Evolution 36cl
Post by: Dane Martin on January 03, 2017, 10:20:38 AM
That might be a little too much for a ringmaster. I fly mine with a .21 and another ringmaster with a .20 four stroke

I'll also make note that my ringmaster with a .21 is a K&B 3.5  so it too is WAY too much. But it's real fun to fly!
Title: Re: Information needed on the Evolution 36cl
Post by: john e. holliday on January 03, 2017, 10:54:13 AM
Yep, way too much engine for the lowly Ringmaster.  Now in a Ringmaster Imperial it might be good.  Mine is on the front of an ARF Nobler and is too much power.  Guess that is why I'm using 11-4 props on it to slow it down.   
Title: Re: Information needed on the Evolution 36cl
Post by: Dane Martin on January 03, 2017, 12:22:38 PM
Exactly. Too much. Now Tommy, if you want a ringmaster engine, check out the .18 and Veco .19 here
http://www.mecoa.com/kb/aero/controlline.htm
Build it light, and this would be perfect!

You should still pick up the .36 if you can. There's plenty of stuff that can be a great choice for
Title: Re: Information needed on the Evolution 36cl
Post by: Fredvon4 on January 03, 2017, 12:56:13 PM
Pat Johnston kits a RingMaster 526. I had asked on Brotherhood of the Ring about the Evo .36 and got several suggestions even from Pat J that the RM 526 and the Evo would be a good fit together. Once I clear some of the current projects off the board that build is planned for this spring
Title: Re: Information needed on the Evolution 36cl
Post by: Steve Helmick on January 03, 2017, 01:58:50 PM
We had a Ringmaster ARF with the K&B .18 attend the Ring-a-thon in October. I noticed the owner had that same K&B .18 for sale at our December Swap Meet. Seems to me like it didn't start well at all, and is very much a high-rev sort of engine. There may have been additional grievances.  n1 Steve 
Title: Re: Information needed on the Evolution 36cl
Post by: Dane Martin on January 03, 2017, 02:11:03 PM
We had a Ringmaster ARF with the K&B .18 attend the Ring-a-thon in October. I noticed the owner had that same K&B .18 for sale at our December Swap Meet. Seems to me like it didn't start well at all, and is very much a high-rev sort of engine. There may have been additional grievances.  n1 Steve 
Come on Steve! You know I like 'em fast!

But the veco 19 is a sweet set up on a ringmaster
Title: Re: Information needed on the Evolution 36cl
Post by: Motorman on January 03, 2017, 09:56:51 PM
We had a Ringmaster ARF with the K&B .18 attend the Ring-a-thon in October. I noticed the owner had that same K&B .18 for sale at our December Swap Meet. Seems to me like it didn't start well at all, and is very much a high-rev sort of engine. There may have been additional grievances.  n1 Steve 

Couple guys had K&B 18's where I use to fly. Word was they were poorly fit and had solid bronze con rod basically no power or mileage.

MM
Title: Re: Information needed on the Evolution 36cl
Post by: Mike Anderson on January 04, 2017, 04:52:04 PM
Exactly. Too much. Now Tommy, if you want a ringmaster engine, check out the .18 and Veco .19 here
http://www.mecoa.com/kb/aero/controlline.htm
Build it light, and this would be perfect!

You should still pick up the .36 if you can. There's plenty of stuff that can be a great choice for
Of these two I would go for the Veco .19.   We had one of the K&B .18's and it couldn't get out of its own way.  The Veco will run circles around it.
Title: Re: Information needed on the Evolution 36cl
Post by: Dane Martin on January 05, 2017, 09:03:08 AM
Of these two I would go for the Veco .19.   We had one of the K&B .18's and it couldn't get out of its own way.  The Veco will run circles around it.

I agree, the veco has always been amazing.
I wanted to buy the .18 and pull it apart. See if there's anything that can be done. But it's the same price as an already known good working engine! They should have priced it lower
Title: Re: Information needed on the Evolution 36cl
Post by: Steve Helmick on January 05, 2017, 03:46:36 PM
Anybody have experience with MECOA produced Veco .19bb's? I seem to recall them being ABC in recent years. But if MECOA can't make the K&B .18 parts fit well, why would they be able to do so with the Veco? Sounds like they need a better hone operator.  y1 Steve