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Offline Gary Anderson

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Testing Rossi 40
« on: December 15, 2009, 11:15:12 AM »
Hi guys,
I purchased a Rossi 40 engine, she's a little heavy, around the weight of a 60 size engine. I tested the engine using a 11/6 wide prop, 12/5 prop and also the 13/5 prop. The engine doesn't seem to care which prop I use. Shes not a run away engine. She does like to run rpm's, with the 13/5 she's idling around 10,000 rpm's. Crank on the needle and when right to 14,000 rpm's and still had room for more R's. She doesn't like 10/22 GMA fuel, I'm using 0/18 fuel and she acts like shes just having fun. I hope to fly her this weekend, I installed the engine in my Tutor. Yes, she will run lower rpm's, so if ya don't hear from me anymore its cause I'm still a spinning, Gary

I've been a doing more test, that sweet heart runs 3 minutes 13 seconds per ounce of fuel. Not bad for a power horse and yes shes pull the tar out of that plane, can't wait to make a few rounds with her. Yes she will four, two like Rossi told me. Might change my mind once I put her in the air but at the moment looks like a winner. Shes suppose to produce 1.9 horse at 17,000 rpm's. That's a lot of rpm but she'll do it, I wonder what shes producing at 10,000 RPM's????? Hey!!! on the ground shes pulling harder than my OS 46. Let ya know later, Gary
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Re: Testing Rossi 40
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2009, 07:37:00 PM »
I have a Rossi 45 that I used in an RC model but my RC flying is limited to doing circuits and loops so I usually just let my son fly it. I set it to run in a 4 stroke when level and, with my son flying, it does a lovely 4-2-4 break in square loops etc. Going up in a big loop it'll break to a 2 stroke on the way up but on the downward side straight back to a 4 stroke. My son's Enya 80X does the same thing at about half throttle (which is all it needs to fly vertical) in a model I built for him based on my stunter.

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Re: Testing Rossi 40
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2009, 07:52:11 PM »
I have a Rossi 45 that I used in an RC model but my RC flying is limited to doing circuits and loops so I usually just let my son fly it. I set it to run in a 4 stroke when level and, with my son flying, it does a lovely 4-2-4 break in square loops etc. Going up in a big loop it'll break to a 2 stroke on the way up but on the downward side straight back to a 4 stroke. My son's Enya 80X does the same thing at about half throttle (which is all it needs to fly vertical) in a model I built for him based on my stunter.
Hi Brian,

How much fuel does the Rossi 45 use??? I can't believe my Rossi 40 only needs two ounces to do the complete pattern. Everybody told me to stay away from Rossi, speed only, I'm getting a different opinion, Gary
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Re: Testing Rossi 40
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2009, 11:23:45 PM »
Gary
I have no idea what rate my Rossi uses fuel because I've always just filled the tank and gone flying because it's not like stunt where you must have exactly the right amount in the tank. However your fuel consumption is virtually identical to my ST G51 which uses 60cc (near enough 2 ounces) for a tad less than a 6 minute run time. There seems to be a general mystique about Rossi only being good for speed but their port timings are actually quite mild, no different to any other sport RC engine. That's for the SE type, I don't know about the RE versions.

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Re: Testing Rossi 40
« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2009, 12:42:08 PM »
Hi Gary
As I have stated here before the Rossi s we used ran very well, the only problem we had with them was the weight.

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Re: Testing Rossi 40
« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2009, 02:59:53 PM »
Hi Gary
As I have stated here before the Rossi s we used ran very well, the only problem we had with them was the weight.

Randy
Hi Randy,
I appreciate your input, the Rossi 40 weighs in the 60 size engine range. According to the spec. the Rossi 40 develops more horse power than most of my 60 size engines. What I've found interesting, so far, is that the Rossi bolt pattern is real close to my ST 60. The Rossi has some very healthy motor mount lugs, compared to most engines. So far I've tried a 11/6 wide prop, 12.25/3.75 APC and a 12/5 wood prop. Didn't seem to change the rpm, fuel consumption about the same. Rossi told me that the Rossi 40 will swing a 13/6 prop without a problem. Seems like that prop would be a little big for a 40??? What do ya think, Randy, have your tried this big of a prop??  I have an adapter, for the muffler and I'm using a OS46SF muffler. Gary
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Re: Testing Rossi 40
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2009, 07:49:17 PM »
I have a Rossi 45 that I used in an RC model but my RC flying is limited to doing circuits and loops so I usually just let my son fly it. I set it to run in a 4 stroke when level and, with my son flying, it does a lovely 4-2-4 break in square loops etc. Going up in a big loop it'll break to a 2 stroke on the way up but on the downward side straight back to a 4 stroke. My son's Enya 80X does the same thing at about half throttle (which is all it needs to fly vertical) in a model I built for him based on my stunter.

Hi Brian,

intresting report about the Enya 80X, I just got one and it weighs 14.8Oz without the carb. Been thinking about trying it in C/L. If it works out,  there quite a bit of metal I could shave off wiht a dremel, yeah I know... it's an awful thing to do to an engine like this!

With a Tube Muffler from Randy, it will weight less then my 70 4S engine, in stock form.

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Re: Testing Rossi 40
« Reply #7 on: December 25, 2009, 12:15:01 AM »
Hi guys,

I was told that the Rossi 40 could handle a 13/6, I tried a 13/5 and I believe that prop is to much for her. She did great on a 12/5 prop, using only 2 ounces of fuel. The Rossi needs a little more breaking in but she's doing well. Very quiet with the OS SF Muffler. At the moment power wise she's very close to my OS46LA. My OS loves the 11.5/4 prop running at around 10,000 rpm's, using 5 1/2 ounces of fuel. At the moment I've been running the Rossi around 8,400 rpm's. Next trip to the field going to try and run smaller props on her, 10/7 or 8??? I think she broke in enough to let the rpm run wild and going to see what she'll do???? Lap time, with the 12/5 is around 5.2, not bad???? Rossi is correct, it will run in stunt mode. Randy, what do ya think would be a good rpm for this baby??? She's suppose to develop 1.9 horse at 17,000 rpm. So far I really like her, thinking maybe if I run a smaller prop and let some more R's in her, might get closer to her power band. Just wondering what size ship she will pull??? If she makes that much power, I would think she would be able to pull 62 to 72 ounce size ship???? Most of my 6o engines are not rated at this much horse power. If she gain a little more R's in maneuvers and doesn't sag, might have a winner. Between fuel consumption, horse power and she doesn't weigh anymore than most of my 60 engines???? Would appreciate any input cause I think the Rossi is a winner, at this moment, Gary
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