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St 60 needle valve and head bolts
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I was just given a built up sig magnum and a 80's St 60. The engine is missing a head bolt and a NVA. I have a tiger needle valve, but is seems to be a little too short and I and get the collet on it.
So what nva do I need and what size head bolts?
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Re: St 60 needle valve and head bolts
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Dave,
PM me your address and I will send you
the head bolts you need. It sounds like
the NVA you have is for a ST 46 it is a
little shorter. Randy Smith will have the
correct NVA or any thing you need for
that engine.
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Re: St 60 needle valve and head bolts
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Thanks for the head bolts and the nice letter.
I have a NVA on order. Hopefully will get it together by this weekend.
Just for the record the bolts seem to be standard metric M3 x 5. So I can use socket head bolts.
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August 31, 2013, 12:59:58 AM »
I bought the 3mm bolts for my .60 Tiger but they are the wrong thread. I don't what thread I bought but it's the only one I found & it's incorrect. I guess I'll plan to upgrade to 3.5mm ...or 6-32
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Re: St 60 needle valve and head bolts
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August 31, 2013, 04:13:28 AM »
Fellow's try a 5-40 thread, seems that this one works, of course your mileage may vary..
I have used them in all my Tiger 60's, no problem
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Re: St 60 needle valve and head bolts
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5/40 works fine but I drilled and re-taped to 6/32 any time I had to do a rebuild. Also tap the hole in the exhaust boss if it has one and then a muffler can be mounted there. The original hole threads are to small hold a muffler well. All my ST/46 motors were set up for 6/32
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I don't know I took an existing head bolt and a m3 matched up perfectly
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Re: St 60 needle valve and head bolts
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Dave,
Normally is the 5-40 that fits (7/16" size), so it sounds a little strange that the 3mm fits perfectly. The 5-40 is more nearly the 1/8", with same threads, that is different from 3mm. Take care.
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Re: St 60 needle valve and head bolts
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Your problem with the ST metric bolts has been around since the first ST came down the line. You can match the threads per inch but you are not matching the pitch. I bought a ton of them from ST back in the 1970's. Then there was a place called Nuts and Bolts on US-19 in Clearwater Fl that had socket head correct bolts and I bought all they had, one box of 500. They are long gone so people found that the 5/40 would work just fine and that is what they use. I have never used them myself as I still have a few of the correct bolts. The flat head bolts that came in the motor were very hard to get tightened all the same. Sockets are much better. Be sure your bolt does not bottom out as all holes are not drilled the same depth.Many times there will be one hole under drilled
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Re: St 60 needle valve and head bolts
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I just used a thread gauge and didn't have to guess. Measurement always wins.
The weird part is the prop is 1/4 28 and the rest are m3x .5. So it 1/2 metric.
Guess when this was new you could not go down to the hardware store and get metric fasteners.
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Re: St 60 needle valve and head bolts
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The early ST 60s were 5-40, the later ones are 3mm bolts
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Interesting history , thanks Randy.
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Quote from: John Leidle on September 12, 2013, 09:38:51 AM
Interesting history , thanks Randy.
Hi John
That also goes for the ST40 , 46 35, the early ones were all 5-40 bolts, just as the old 51 56 were
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