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Title: Super Tigre NV?
Post by: Joe Messinger on June 30, 2007, 08:52:59 PM
I'm sure this has been addressed here in the past.  I can't seem to find anything in the archives.  Question:  Does anyone have a good fix for keeping the collar on a ST NVA in place (tight)?  Seems sooner or later the thing loosens and lets the needle valve vibrate and move.

I have several of Randy's PA NVA set ups and they work fine but I hate to abandon all the standard ST assemblies that I have.

Any advice appreciated.

Thanks,

Joe
Title: Re: Super Tigre NV?
Post by: steven yampolsky on June 30, 2007, 10:01:37 PM
Question:  Does anyone have a good fix for keeping the collar on a ST NVA in place (tight)?  Seems sooner or later the thing loosens and lets the needle valve vibrate and move.

Get PA NVAs  LL~ LL~
Title: Re: Super Tigre NV?
Post by: Joe Messinger on July 01, 2007, 12:45:38 AM
Steven,

As I mentioned in my question, I have some PA nvs.  I'm interested in finding a way to improve the ST nvs that I already have.
Title: Re: Super Tigre NV?
Post by: Bob Reeves on July 01, 2007, 03:17:20 AM
Only trick is getting the collar just tight enough... Needs to be to where the needle is hard to turn but can still be turned.
Title: Re: Super Tigre NV?
Post by: Joe Messinger on July 01, 2007, 11:59:50 AM
Hello,

I imagine I'll end up replacing most of my ST NVAs with PAs.  As Ty mentioned, the only problem with the STs is the collar staying put. 

I guess I just have trouble discarding something that could-possibly- be fixed.  Growing up in the 1950's, if I was fortunate enough to have a bicycle, Flexible Flyer sled, or later a car, when something broke or didn't work on these things you either fixed it or walked.  Replacing it wasn't really an option. I suppose I'm still of that mentality.  Also, if I can take something that isn't working and somehow improve or repair it, I get a sense of satisfaction from doing that which is absent when I throw the old thing away and buy a new one. Often, it's not worth the effort and is impractical but I still try.

I might wrap some teflon tape on the ST threads. Probably won't help much but we'll see.  Next step, call Randy and order some PA valves. . .

Thanks for help.

Joe
Title: Re: Super Tigre NV?
Post by: Bob Reeves on July 01, 2007, 02:09:52 PM
Granted the PA assys are excellent but I've never had a ST assy that wasn't serviceable with a little judicious tightening of the retaining collar.
Title: Re: Super Tigre NV?
Post by: Paul Taylor on July 01, 2007, 03:30:57 PM
I do not have much experince with ST NVA, but here is one I had at Brodaks a few weeks back.

See thread:
http://stunthanger.com/smf/index.php?topic=5639.0

Paul H^^
Title: Re: Super Tigre NV?
Post by: Jim Thomerson on July 07, 2007, 06:01:30 AM
I've never had that problem (that I recall), but I check the collet from time to time.  I took some cheap slightly undersize flat wrench and dremeled it to fit. You might try inserting a #11 blade in the split in the end of the spraybar and expanding it slightly.   
Title: Re: Super Tigre NV?
Post by: Steve Helmick on July 07, 2007, 09:31:09 PM
Joe, I think you'll eventually come to the conclusion that the gland nut isn't turning, just the threads loosening. At least, that's my view on the ST NV Assemblies. I used them for combat, and speed, where it was common practise to close the NV, then open it for starting. The Randy Aero/Nelson NV assemblies would have been dearly loved, in those days. The thing I like about them, is you can tighten them VERY tight, but still adjust the NV. You might consider cutting the end off the ST spraybar and making a plastic cone to turn it into a PA clone.  H^^ Steve
Title: Re: Super Tigre NV?
Post by: Joe Messinger on July 07, 2007, 11:11:35 PM
Thanks Steve and all.  The ST nvas aren't too troublesome on the profile planes I have as the collar is easy to get to.  Some of my planes with cowling present a problem. 

I think I'll replace the ST nvs in the cowled planes with PA nvas and just frequently tighten the others.

Regards,

Joe