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Offline Alexey Gorbunov

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ST40/45/51 GS series with pipe
« on: March 14, 2018, 12:41:42 PM »
Has anyone tried doing it? Also interesting stalkers with pipe.
« Last Edit: March 14, 2018, 01:11:47 PM by Alexey Gorbunov »

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Re: ST40/45/51 GS series with pipe
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2018, 11:04:35 PM »
Has anyone tried doing it? Also interesting stalkers with pipe.

A lot of people use a  G51 Super Tiger  piped, so I see no reason a  GS  series would not work

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Re: ST40/45/51 GS series with pipe
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2018, 01:07:09 PM »
I remember a guy named Ed from Oldsmar Fl who ran the GS/40 with a pipe in a Juno. It ran well till the motors rod went.
He used the setup from one of  Randy Smith 40's. The GS/40 motor may not last at High RPM.I believe the setting was around 11-12,000 rpm
Ed
Locust NC 40 miles from the Huntersville field

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Re: ST40/45/51 GS series with pipe
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2018, 08:42:24 PM »
Pretty Sure the rods are pretty much all the same , 16.000 rpm R/C thingos .

Have the timing figures written down , will put them here in a day or two .

The 40 has the biggest variation transfer to exhaust . the 45 ABC looks good ( non Piped )
yet to nail it in the test bed . and the softer chinese 40 ring broke in a laps , or twist . >:(

Como 40 & 51 have the same bolt pattern , but ' shorter nose ' , shave the lugs narrower & stack to clear mounting bolts / screwdriver .
Ive got the ringed baffled Comos , later Schneurle seem where ST development proceeded thru ' S ' to ' G ' ( & GS )

Sort of the Lineiage , thru from the olde 60s g 40/46/51 of the 60s , most internal dimensions carried thru .






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Re: ST40/45/51 GS series with pipe
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2018, 03:09:01 PM »
My GS was a very heavily used RC motor when I tried it. It had great compression but was loose in the rod to piston area. I Put the GS in a old Juno and it was very nose heavy. The GS is four ounces heaver than the ST/46. Bill Rich gave me the pipe set up to fool around with. I was going to put the set up in a SV/11 but went with a ST/56 as that is what I had. The GS did run very well. Back then pipe set ups were running faster than now.
  Matt   I did use the Como 40 &45 also with muffler. They needed a slight sleeve rework to get the most out of them. Tom Dixon use to sell the Come reworked and they ran well. The early crossport motor was a nice motor also.
EddyR
Locust NC 40 miles from the Huntersville field

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Re: ST40/45/51 GS series with pipe
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2018, 11:11:53 PM »
I put the book where i could find it easily ; in the draw . :(

got
   GS 45 It.        40 china       G 51 It.( C.L. )
Ex 73 ( 146 )     74 ( 148 )    68 ( 136 .

Tr. 60 ( 120 )     56 ( 112 )    58 ( 116 )

Bt.    58 ( 116 )   56 ( 112 )     58 ( 112 ) 

io 44 ic  47          44 - 46          47 - 47

so crank timings pretty much the same , sleeve set ups not .

Dunno how the Blow Down relates to the stunt pipe use ,

The 40 has the most , the G 51 R/C would have more than the C/L ! maybe better than C/L , when both piped ? .

The OS 40 / 46 VFs run about 140 Ex 120 Trans , as incidently My Silver Head ( Early ) X 45 Chrome/ ringed sucker .
The X 45 has long nose 21/46 bolt pattern NOT G Series mount .
Other X 45s have a bit , and much on flat head , higher sleeve timing .

The Como & G have same mount tho Comos shorter nose , theres two series Como post baffled ring ,
some 40 baffle are ABC , stamped on lug. Schnurle are truncated block / Flat Head .

You had me thinking of ' G ' crank swaps for timing / displacement changes . Shorter Stroke lowering port timing & V.c.V.

 H^^


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