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ST-46 Bearings
« on: June 15, 2013, 06:23:10 PM »
Anyone know what number Boca Bearings kit are a replacement for the factory bearings in  ST-46 engines? A search yielded no results. Thanks in advance. 8)
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Re: ST-46 Bearings
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2013, 07:19:32 PM »
Anyone know what number Boca Bearings kit are a replacement for the factory bearings in  ST-46 engines? A search yielded no results. Thanks in advance. 8)

  I think that all G21 (G21/.29, G21/.35, G21/.40, G21/.46) series engines are the same but Randy would likely know. Given my assumption is right, it's ENK-079xx

   What I would do instead (and have) is take the bearings out, take it to an industrial bearing supply store, hand it to them and say give me a new one. Last time I did that (at King Bearing in Mountain View, CA) the kid looked at it, walked straight to it, straight back, and said "$7" in the space of maybe 15 seconds.

    Brett

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Re: ST-46 Bearings
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2013, 09:17:37 PM »
Thanks Brett, that's what I needed to know.  8)
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Re: ST-46 Bearings
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2013, 09:43:29 PM »
Thanks Brett, that's what I needed to know.  8)

   Bear in mind I am not certain!

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Re: ST-46 Bearings
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2013, 10:38:01 PM »
Got it, I will confirm the ## before I order but is sounds right. Same as the ST-60(Old style) bearings also fitting the V-51 and V-56 which also share the same case. 8)
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Re: ST-46 Bearings
« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2013, 11:44:45 AM »
Got it, I will confirm the ## before I order but is sounds right. Same as the ST-60(Old style) bearings also fitting the V-51 and V-56 which also share the same case. 8)


No  they are not the same, only the front bearing is the same, but it will be best to not use what was stock supplied by ST, for the front use a 607-2RS  and remove one of the rubber seals
The rear is smaller than the ST 51 56 60, it is better if you use a phenolic race bearing for the rear.
I have these in stock also

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Re: ST-46 Bearings
« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2013, 11:50:01 AM »
Pete,

According to my "Boca Bearing Catalogue" to number you are looking for is; ENK-79

I'd call them up and ask them what # they have. As Randy says the 51-60 is ENK-44.

Good luck, see you Sunday, Jerry

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Re: ST-46 Bearings
« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2013, 11:52:42 AM »
 I think that all G21 (G21/.29, G21/.35, G21/.40, G21/.46) series engines are the same but Randy would likely know. Given my assumption is right, it's ENK-079xx

   What I would do instead (and have) is take the bearings out, take it to an industrial bearing supply store, hand it to them and say give me a new one. Last time I did that (at King Bearing in Mountain View, CA) the kid looked at it, walked straight to it, straight back, and said "$7" in the space of maybe 15 seconds.

    Brett


Hi Brett That is correct, and the front bearing is also the same in the ST 51  56  60.  The rear is much larger

It was pretty interesting that ST could  bore and stroke the G21-29 out all the way to 46 (then I took it out to 49 and 55)  That engine served so many, and varied different modeling events, speed, combat, RC boat racing, RC sport, CL Aerobatics, and more.

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Re: ST-46 Bearings
« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2013, 12:51:53 PM »
Thanks all for the good info. I will send a PM to add the 46 bearing set to my current Aero Products order. I got into stunt after the heyday of the ST-46 but sure like running them now. 8)
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Re: ST-46 Bearings
« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2013, 01:07:35 PM »

Hi Brett That is correct, and the front bearing is also the same in the ST 51  56  60.  The rear is much larger

It was pretty interesting that ST could  bore and stroke the G21-29 out all the way to 46 (then I took it out to 49 and 55)  That engine served so many, and varied different modeling events, speed, combat, RC boat racing, RC sport, CL Aerobatics, and more.

    Just like some wacky guy put a 36, 40, 51 61 and 65 into the same case?  The G21/46 looked stretched and stuffed in every possible way into the regular case just like the PA61/65. The die used to be the hardest/most expensive part, makes sense it would be reused to the extent possible.

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Re: ST-46 Bearings
« Reply #10 on: June 16, 2013, 07:32:20 PM »
    Just like some wacky guy put a 36, 40, 51 61 and 65 into the same case?  The G21/46 looked stretched and stuffed in every possible way into the regular case just like the PA61/65. The die used to be the hardest/most expensive part, makes sense it would be reused to the extent possible.

    Brett

The G-21 case was about at its limit, but the ST G 40 and Como 40 had much more room, I took the to 59 , 64, 71, I still have a new 65 that is in a Como 40 case and has never been run But Scott Bair had them even bigger, He also made a ST V 60 into a .88  :-)  Good engines that were very light for the size.

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Re: ST-46 Bearings
« Reply #11 on: July 16, 2013, 08:20:56 PM »
I used to run G 21 35 in combat. We would use 607-Z for the front, shield one side. No rubber seals.


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