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Offline tom brightbill

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Compression measured as psi for the engines we use.
« on: October 31, 2013, 07:51:34 PM »
I've measured a couple LA 25's and find them measuring between 85 and 95 psi.  Does anyone else have any data? Thanks
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Re: Compression measured as psi for the engines we use.
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2013, 08:02:55 PM »
How are you measuring the pressure?


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Re: Compression measured as psi for the engines we use.
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2013, 08:46:22 PM »
Measuring compression pressure really does not tell you much except for maybe how much it is leaking. Compression ratio has to be measured by volume. You can take two engines of the same displacement, one an ABC and one a ringed with the same compression ratio and the pressure will be quite different.
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Re: Compression measured as psi for the engines we use.
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2013, 09:13:17 PM »
Guys, Having rebuilt auto engines including cc'ing heads I'm familiar with compression ratio, etc. I'm using a small compression tester that screws into the head. After run oil is added first.  Then I flip the prop until the reading no longer climbs.  I understand that ringed/non-ringed engines will be different, as will those at various stages of use.  What I am curious about is if I can establish a baseline at room temperature to help predict power and life expectancy. As much for fun as anything else. Thanks for the interest.
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Re: Compression measured as psi for the engines we use.
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2013, 10:00:14 PM »
Measuring compression pressure really does not tell you much except for maybe how much it is leaking. Compression ratio has to be measured by volume. You can take two engines of the same displacement, one an ABC and one a ringed with the same compression ratio and the pressure will be quite different.

   The pressure certainly tells you more than the leakage. The pressure will be the ratio of the volume when the ports close to the volume at TDC, (minus the leakage) and it certainly tells you something. I would suggest a look at Scott Bair's engine analysis paper, where the actual pressure on live strokes and "coasting" stroke is shown and where the peak pressure on the nonfiring strokes was what you would expect given the compression ratio.

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Re: Compression measured as psi for the engines we use.
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2013, 07:26:50 AM »
I have read Scotts paper and using pressure the way he did with the engine working was very interesting. I guess I was thinking more of using pressure to set deck height. Using it as a base line would certainly be usefull for checking pressure over its usefull life and it would be fun to check different engines and compare them.
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Re: Compression measured as psi for the engines we use.
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2013, 09:19:43 AM »
Yes Jim, that's what I was trying to say. Thank you.
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