Author Topic: Question about Needle valve position for CLPA models (Read 1100 times)

Jim Oliver · « **on:** February 23, 2007, 03:23:32 PM »

What is the best orientation for the Needle Valve for CLPA models with upright/inverted engines--should the needle valve exit the nose to the outside of the circle or to the inside of the circle?

Does it really make any difference to the engine?

Thanks,
Jim

Bill Little · « **Reply #1 on:** February 23, 2007, 06:34:11 PM »

Hi Jim,

I think it sure makes plumbing the fuel line from the tank to the NVA easier (with a metal tank) if the needle comes out to the inside of the circle. Straight shot from the tank feed line to the inlet nipple on the NVA.

Bill <><

RandySmith · « **Reply #2 on:** February 23, 2007, 09:40:37 PM »

Quote from: Jim Oliver on February 23, 2007, 03:23:32 PM

What is the best orientation for the Needle Valve for CLPA models with upright/inverted engines--should the needle valve exit the nose to the outside of the circle or to the inside of the circle?

Does it really make any difference to the engine?

Thanks,
Jim

Hi Jim

Many times it will make a big differance, it will be hard to needle the exact setting you want if you put the fuel pickup side on the inboard instead of the outboard, many engines will go lean when launched, some motors act differant, it is best to use the fuel pickup side on the outboard

Randy

Jim Oliver · « **Reply #3 on:** February 24, 2007, 07:15:38 AM »

Thanks for the info--as we used to say "Wilco".

Jim

Jim Thomerson · « **Reply #4 on:** February 24, 2007, 10:35:28 AM »

In agreement on the NVA. A little off subject! I ran a K&B 4011 inverted with the case turned so the exhaust was outboard, Ran the muffler line through the fuselage and out the inside to get to the uniflow vent. Looked sort of strange, but worked fine.

L0U CRANE · « **Reply #5 on:** February 25, 2007, 01:41:55 AM »

As an exception - a special case - to the general rule that the 'more direct' fuel line connection is the best, I had a Sterling YAK-9/Fox35 that needled better with an added loop of fuel line between tank and engine...

Short, direct fuel connection didn't compare. NVA was stock Fox, so fuel jet position ideas were neutralized - spraybar oriented so that NEITHER jet was visible from outside the engine. It may be that the "line loss" of the extra length 'broadened' the needle valve response - required a bit more "open" than a shorter fuel path - but, by golly, it worked! This may be another tuning item we could look at... if nothing else helps.

Bob Reeves · « **Reply #6 on:** February 25, 2007, 08:03:45 AM »

You can always find an exception.. Built a stunt ship using an Oriental wing several years ago and when I made the cowl I didn't realize the needle was turned around in the Max 35S I was planning on using so went ahead and drilled the needle hole and everything was cool till after I had it finished and started installing the tank. I just routed the fuel line around behind the engine and went on. Someone else now owns it but that airplane is still flying with a Brodak 40 and needle protruding from the wrong side. The 35s ran great and so does the Brodak 40.

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