News:


  • June 18, 2024, 12:35:51 PM

Login with username, password and session length

Author Topic: It is always something!!!  (Read 1269 times)

Offline frank mccune

  • AMA Member
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Admiral
  • *
  • Posts: 1623
It is always something!!!
« on: November 10, 2020, 11:12:31 AM »
     Hi there:

     After many flights on a good stunt plane-engine combination, the engine has started to run very rich when inverted.  The tank is a metal Uniflow that has performed flawlessly.  Nothing in the engine has been altered.

      What changed to cause this disaster?

       Tia,

       Frank

       

       

Offline John Leidle

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Captain
  • *****
  • Posts: 409
Re: It is always something!!!
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2020, 11:47:54 AM »
   Frank ,
  I've had similer things happen the running characteristics change with the calendar , weather , etc. I just adjust as it happens, all of a sudden the tank won't hold enough fuel, another situation.
  John L.

Online Dennis Nunes

  • 23 supporter
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Commander
  • *
  • Posts: 369
Re: It is always something!!!
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2020, 12:02:14 PM »
I ran into the same thing a while back with my ST60. Engine ran fine and then one day it started to act up. I checked and replaced just about everything you can think of except one thing.  HB~>

Come to find out all I needed to do was replace the glow plug. Once I did that my ST60 purred like a kitten! 

Dennis

Offline John Leidle

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Captain
  • *****
  • Posts: 409
Re: It is always something!!!
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2020, 03:56:34 PM »
I ran into the same thing a while back with my ST60. Engine ran fine and then one day it started to act up. I checked and replaced just about everything you can think of except one thing.  HB~>

Come to find out all I needed to do was replace the glow plug. Once I did that my ST60 purred like a kitten! 

Dennis

    I've seen that also.
  John L.

Offline Brett Buck

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Admiral
  • ******
  • Posts: 13794
Re: It is always something!!!
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2020, 04:24:18 PM »
     Hi there:

     After many flights on a good stunt plane-engine combination, the engine has started to run very rich when inverted.  The tank is a metal Uniflow that has performed flawlessly.  Nothing in the engine has been altered.

      What changed to cause this disaster?

  Impossible to say without seeing it. The most obvious answer is that the tank is moving around, but, it's possible that the uniflow vent tube has come loose, or that the overflow tube or plug has cracked or is otherwise leaking air. Remove the tank and inspect it, wiggle all the tubes to see if any of them move, then check for leaks. Note that *all* the tubes must be soldered both where they go through the wall of the tank, and to the inside of the tank where the end, or they are guaranteed to shake loose at some point.

    Commercial tanks also typically use brass tubing rather than copper, and they will all eventually crack or erode away.

     Brett

Offline Tim Wescott

  • 2016 supporter
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Admiral
  • *
  • Posts: 12833
Re: It is always something!!!
« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2020, 10:40:55 PM »
Check for leaks.  I had a tank that did that; I didn't realize that it had a crack until it opened up at a contest.

The guy who pitted for me watched it come around its first lap, then got a face full of fuel as it came around -- it was a big leak.
AMA 64232

The problem with electric is that once you get the smoke generator and sound system installed, the plane is too heavy.

Online Dan Berry

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Admiral
  • ******
  • Posts: 1064
Re: It is always something!!!
« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2020, 06:53:38 AM »
If the tank uses brass tubing you're gonna need to re-do the tank.

Offline Ken Culbertson

  • 24 supporter
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Admiral
  • *
  • Posts: 6208
Re: It is always something!!!
« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2020, 12:26:38 PM »
     Hi there:

     After many flights on a good stunt plane-engine combination, the engine has started to run very rich when inverted.  The tank is a metal Uniflow that has performed flawlessly.  Nothing in the engine has been altered.

      What changed to cause this disaster?

       Tia,

       Frank

       

     
My OS46LA did this to me last year.  I fumbled around with everything from tubing to needle settings.  When I was about to roll up the lines and mumble off to the parking area Phillip Nichols chuckels, "Glow Plug".  Wondering why he had let me risk an inverted landing 4 times so far I changed the plug then asked him if he would set it for me.  4 perfect runs.  Phillip is our IC guru and I have not seen better.  Guess it was his way of kicking me in the nuts for going electric.

IMHO, glow plug or uniflow tube has popped loose.  Fuel a distant maybe.

Ken
 
AMA 15382
If it is not broke you are not trying hard enough.
USAF 1968-1974 TAC

Offline jim gilmore

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Admiral
  • ******
  • Posts: 1216
Re: It is always something!!!
« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2020, 10:20:58 AM »
If something changes , let's look at the variables. Is the temperature colder or more humid ?  Could there be an obstruction in the venturi  ? Or could there be an amount of old fuel that was in the needle valve that has finally broke down and no longer restricting the flow? Or has the glow plug gotten weaker in some way? IC engines only have a few variables but they can be odd at time.


Advertise Here
Tags:
 


Advertise Here