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Engine basics => Engine set up tips => Topic started by: Allan Perret on February 13, 2009, 08:42:19 PM

Title: Glow plug > RPM drop
Post by: Allan Perret on February 13, 2009, 08:42:19 PM
I've often read that if the rpm drops when you disconnect battery the glow plug is either bad or to cold heat range.  I've tried Fox RC long, Fox Miracle, Thunderbolt RC long, and Sig RC long and they all have rpm drop when battery is disconnected.   All new plugs in a variety of engines.  So what's up with that ?
Title: Re: Glow plug > RPM drop
Post by: ray copeland on February 13, 2009, 08:53:27 PM
Usually only happens to me when i have the needle too rich to begin with. Maybe try setting the needle a little more lean then removing the battery clip.. In my very few years of flying i have found that if a plug is bad , but good enough to start ,, it will loose rpm's even on a good needle setting.. or be sluggish when on a load. Hope you get this one figured out!!!  H^^
Title: Re: Glow plug > RPM drop
Post by: michael battley on February 14, 2009, 06:12:40 PM
Could be a number of things, as already stated, it's most likely a little too rich, but could be: engine showing signs of wear, water in the fuel, you might be taking the igniter away too early before the engine has a chance to warm up.
Title: Re: Glow plug > RPM drop
Post by: Steve Helmick on February 15, 2009, 03:49:27 PM
I don't consider my engine 'warmed up' until I've pinched off the muffler pressure line or blocked off the uniflow vent, to lean the engine to peak or a little sag lean. Then I tach then engine and adjust the NV if needed.

When the battery comes off depends on whether the engine is a sidewinder, or upright or inverted for starting, but before taching and needling. If I've turned the plane (inverted engine) over to start, the battery comes off before it's turned back over. Hope this helps somebody.  ~> Steve 
Title: Re: Glow plug > RPM drop
Post by: Brian Hampton on February 16, 2009, 12:28:12 AM
Generally it's a sign the plug is a bit too cool for the particular combination of engine/fuel/prop load and phase of the moon :). Plug heat range is one of the things that sets the ignition timing and the closer the timing is to ideal the more power and therefore the revs you get. With the engine running and power connected to the plug it's got both catalytic heat and electrical power to heat it, in effect overdriving the heat range. Disconnect the power, the plug cools down a little, the timing changes to less than optimum and the engine loses revs.

If you find a rev drop with the hottest plug available then adding nitro or raising the compression will advance the ignition timing. Personally though I don't worry if there's a minor rev drop although lately I've started using the Taipan 4 stroke plug which gives no discernible change when using zero nitro fuel in an Enya 60-IIIB and several others.
Title: Re: Glow plug > RPM drop
Post by: Leo Mehl on March 29, 2009, 07:08:47 PM
If rpm drops after you take battery off on the thunderbolt plug it means its time to replace it before it burns out!  HB~> HB~>