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Engine basics => Engine set up tips => Topic started by: Ron Cribbs on October 07, 2014, 06:39:23 PM

Title: Fox .10
Post by: Ron Cribbs on October 07, 2014, 06:39:23 PM
Ok guys,

I put a Fox .10 on a Jr. Ringmaster for my son. I have gone from 7x4 to 6x3 and between. This engine is a dog. Anybody have a suggestion as to what prop I should use for this.

It keeps tension on the lines, but I have to keep the lines under 40ft to keep it out there. Engine is in good shape with good compression. I am beginning to think I made the wrong choice....

Ron
Title: Re: Fox .10
Post by: Dane Martin on October 07, 2014, 07:05:57 PM
Ron, is that a rocket .10? with steel fins? if so.... yeah, it's a dog! lol. everyone says the Cox .049 engines are stronger. i don't know if that's a joke, but you never know. a Cox .09 will smoke that .10 , i know that.
Title: Re: Fox .10
Post by: Jim Kraft on October 07, 2014, 08:54:33 PM
I ran a Fox 15 slant plug on my Jr. Ring and it flew it fine with an 8-4 Top Flite prop. A modern .10 might fly it OK, but a good 15 would be my choice. I flew mine on 52' lines.
Title: Re: Fox .10
Post by: wwwarbird on October 07, 2014, 09:03:43 PM

 Swap it for an LA.15 and be done with it. y1
Title: Re: Fox .10
Post by: Dane Martin on October 07, 2014, 09:13:04 PM
I ran a Fox 15 slant plug on my Jr. Ring and it flew it fine with an 8-4 Top Flite prop. A modern .10 might fly it OK, but a good 15 would be my choice. I flew mine on 52' lines.

the slant plug is the 15x. that is a power house compared to the .10 and .15 fox rockets. I'd say the .15x was better than the .19 from fox. i have them on different planes, but i could swear the 15x is a better run.  ;D
Title: Re: Fox .10
Post by: Ron Cribbs on October 07, 2014, 09:33:40 PM
The engine is akin to the Hustler .10

There is a reason I am wanting a less powerful engine on it is back yard area will only support a 45' of line length. I was afraid a .15x would be too much on 45' and it balanced way nose heavy when I mounted it. The Fox .10 balanced fine.

I have Cox .09's and .15's but again I know they would overpower it on 45'  an LA would rip the wings off, not to mention we would be back to nose heavy.

An .09 Medallion may work but, major surgery would be required to narrow the beams.

I was hoping to be able to prop it for more oomph.

Thanks for the help gentlemen.

Title: Re: Fox .10
Post by: Dane Martin on October 07, 2014, 09:50:30 PM
this is my opinion, but i would run more pitch than you would normally run. on that set up, I'd try a 7x6. you don't want more diameter, cuz there's not a lot of torque on reserve. but you need more pitch, cuz it's a low revving engine. maybe even cut down a 8x6 to a 7x6 so its wider.  i dont think i'd give up on that engine, though.
Title: Re: Fox .10
Post by: Jim Kraft on October 08, 2014, 06:05:00 AM
I believe Dane is correct. I would try a 7-6 prop and go from there.
Title: Re: Fox .10
Post by: Ron Cribbs on October 17, 2014, 08:32:56 AM
Ok,

And the verdict is..... The Fox .10 is a POS.

Anything above a 7x4 loads that engine way down and 6" props keep the revs up, but I have no thrust. Might make a good hand toss FF engine, but beyond that it's useless. It's going back in the drawer and I am going to re-space the bearers and install a Medallion .09.
Title: Re: Fox .10
Post by: Motorman on October 17, 2014, 10:53:03 AM
OS makes an LA .10. If the Cox .09 is too fast you can always put the prop on backwards.


MM
Title: Re: Fox .10
Post by: Ron Cribbs on October 18, 2014, 12:50:17 PM
OS makes an LA .10. If the Cox .09 is too fast you can always put the prop on backwards.


MM

Yeah, I bet the OS has more juice than the Cox. If line length wasn't an issue this would be a no brainer. I'll try the medallion and see.

Ron
Title: Re: Fox .10
Post by: Tim Wescott on October 18, 2014, 01:09:50 PM
Yeah, I bet the OS has more juice than the Cox. If line length wasn't an issue this would be a no brainer. I'll try the medallion and see.

Use the LA .10.  It comes with an RC carb, so make a throttle rod with a clip to hold it in place.  Then adjust the throttle to whatever flies the plane nicely.

If you're just bound and determined to use the .10 with a venturi, either shove wooden plugs into the thing until you get the speed you want, or pile up layers of pantyhose on the inlet until you get the speed you want.
Title: Re: Fox .10
Post by: afml on October 19, 2014, 12:07:05 PM
Surprised no one has mentioned an Enya .09.

"Tight Lines!" H^^
Wes
Title: Re: Fox .10
Post by: Jim Thomerson on October 19, 2014, 05:55:30 PM
I did some experimenting with a Medallion 09. Additional washers under the glow head will tame it down. I friend has an LA 10 on a Jr.  Flite Streak.  It flies pretty well on fairly short lines.  Sorry, don't know exactly how long.