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Title: Exhaust Temperture
Post by: Gary Anderson on February 16, 2008, 06:50:12 PM
Hi Randy, help a old guy out. I forgot what exhaust temp. from most 60 size engine.  I believe its around 200 to 250 degrees? Don't get old, can't remember anything. I'm just playing around with different exhaust system, lost my temp gauge. I wanted to test temp at engine and then test at the end of exhaust system. Just was interested how many degrees is lost from engine to end of muffler. I'm always doing something stupid, I have different mufflers and testing to see the different power of the engine on the different muffler set up's. I have a digital fish scale, going to see if there is a different pull bye using different exhaust systems. Just having fun, appreciate any input, thank you, Gary
Title: Re: Exhaust Temperture
Post by: Russell Shaffer on February 16, 2008, 08:04:55 PM
If you are talking Fahrenheit,   that has to be low.  I melted solder on a home made manifold this summer on a bench run.  Lead melts at way over 200. 
Title: Re: Exhaust Temperture
Post by: Gary Anderson on February 16, 2008, 08:46:04 PM
If you are talking Fahrenheit,   that has to be low.  I melted solder on a home made manifold this summer on a bench run.  Lead melts at way over 200. 
Hi Russell, wow you must be running very hot. I use 95/5 solder and can put it in the exhaust stream and it does nothing. Melting point is 450 degrees Fahrenheits. and I make all my mufflers with this solder. Was the set up for a pipe type system? Does a pipe system run hotter than a regular type? What size motor did you melt the solder with? You're correct I believe water at sea level boils at 212 degrees. If you spray water on the head of a hot engine it seems to boil. Thank you for your input, Gary
Title: Re: Exhaust Temperture
Post by: Russell Shaffer on February 17, 2008, 07:54:49 AM
It was an Enya 19.  I made a manifold from a brass strip and a copper elbow.  So it was attached directly to the exhaust port.  The elbow fell off after 2 or 3 minutes. 
Title: Re: Exhaust Temperture
Post by: Alan Hahn on February 17, 2008, 10:27:06 AM
I am guessing the differences may be in how the engine is running. If it is 4 stroking or a rich 2 stroke, I bet the solder will hold (lots of fluid coming out the exhaust port), but if in a strong or lean 2 stroke, it might be pretty hot.

Of course if you get a lean run...... Better plan for that!
Title: Re: Exhaust Temperture
Post by: RandySmith on February 17, 2008, 11:44:46 AM
Hi Randy, help a old guy out. I forgot what exhaust temp. from most 60 size engine.  I believe its around 200 to 250 degrees? Don't get old, can't remember anything. I'm just playing around with different exhaust system, lost my temp gauge. I wanted to test temp at engine and then test at the end of exhaust system. Just was interested how many degrees is lost from engine to end of muffler. I'm always doing something stupid, I have different mufflers and testing to see the different power of the engine on the different muffler set up's. I have a digital fish scale, going to see if there is a different pull bye using different exhaust systems. Just having fun, appreciate any input, thank you, Gary

Hi Gary

That will  vary a large amount,mostly depending on how lean or rich you are running, EGT  can run 500 degrees at the header / motor, and down to less than 200 degrees at the back of the pipe. This was just an example.Most All exhaust system will have different  temp reading.
Some 4 cycles will hit over 1000  degrees.
The only way to know for sure is to use a meter  such as the laser temperature   guns. I sell 2 of these at reasonable prices, and they are commonly availible at many places

Randy
Title: Re: Exhaust Temperture
Post by: Jim Oliver on February 17, 2008, 02:23:03 PM
During my time in the RC Pattern Wars, one of the guys had an EGT probe in the exhaust of his 1.20 4 stroke.  He said the mix was right when the EGT was ~1300*F. 

Sounds hot, but is in the range of full size airplane piston engine exhaust systems.  The actual reading is very dependent on the exact location of the probe in the exhaust stream.

Fun stuff!!

Jim
Title: Re: Exhaust Temperture
Post by: RandySmith on February 17, 2008, 03:05:42 PM
During my time in the RC Pattern Wars, one of the guys had an EGT probe in the exhaust of his 1.20 4 stroke.  He said the mix was right when the EGT was ~1300*F. 

Sounds hot, but is in the range of full size airplane piston engine exhaust systems.  The actual reading is very dependent on the exact location of the probe in the exhaust stream.

Fun stuff!!

Jim

Hi Jim

You are correct, a lot of guys were melting aftermarket aluminum  mufflers  off of their 4 strokes several years  back, this requires temps  above 1100  degrees, much much hotter  than the 2 strokes

Randy