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Online Peter in Fairfax, VA

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Brodak Motor Mount System
« on: July 14, 2020, 12:00:54 PM »
Is anyone familiar with the Brodak motor mount system?  I have a plane with one.

The theory sounds good to me, that it works by exerting pressure on the mounting lugs. The PSP test stand is similar and well liked by its users, including myself.

My understanding is that more typical mounts use this same concept, that the way engines are held is strictly a function of the clamping force, that shafts of the bolts do not actually bear any side forces once tightened.  I'm curious about both experiences and thoughts on the theory.

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https://brodak.com/motor-mount-system.html

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Re: Brodak Motor Mount System
« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2020, 12:04:48 PM »
It's very common in RC trainers and ARF models. I've used them plenty there. I don't think I've ever done it in a CL plane,  mostly because I've never had an ARF or something that would come with them. In RC, they worked just fine for me.

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Re: Brodak Motor Mount System
« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2020, 12:13:27 PM »
Dane,

Thanks for the info.  I'm seeing that others have used this system with good luck.  Combined with a way to adjust balance, could make for a nice engine test system.  Though I am running O.S. LA 46 most of the time.

Peter

https://stunthanger.com/smf/product-reviews/brodak-motor-mount-system/msg18860/#msg18860

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Re: Brodak Motor Mount System
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2020, 06:30:17 AM »
Well, the engine is mounted, waiting for first flight.  Some comments.

The flexibility of this system looks interesting.  There is enough freedom that experiments with thrust angles appear possible.

The hold-down bars do create issues with clearance around the NVA.  I was concerned that my Super Tigre NVA's tension nut would not be adjustable via wrench.  While that is actually AOK, the short NV I like will not rotate, as it runs interference with the bar.  I'll install a long NV and accept that it may get wiped out with an inverted landing or rough handling when starting or in the hangar.

Peter

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Re: Brodak Motor Mount System
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2020, 08:31:07 PM »
Peter,
As you know I am assembling one of these ARFs and have made some additions to the clamp mount.  Mainly what I have done is to make some additional holes in the lower plate to insert 1/8" pins that match the diagonal mounting holes in the engine to help keep it in place.  Like you, I plan on using an LA 46 primarily but also have a Double Star 50 that I have been wanting to try.  So using opposite diagonals I have 4 pin holes to hold either one.  Will see about posting some pics if there is any interest.
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Re: Brodak Motor Mount System
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2020, 11:49:27 AM »
John,

Those pins should work great for keeping the motor in exactly one place, speeding alignment at maintenance time.

I thought about the pins, too.  However, based on both theory and testing by others, the mount seemed adequate as-is for my purposes.  Others pointed out that many ARFs use similar "clamp only" designs.  Plus, I'm looking forward to testing the effect of rotating the engine for up/down thrust as part of my ongoing efforts at tuning and trimming.

No real problems with handling the engine on test flights last night, except that I ended up using a longer NV, as the short one hit the mount's clamp bar.

Peter



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