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Offline Gary Anderson

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Draining Oil from Pipes
« on: April 20, 2011, 01:37:55 PM »
Hi guys,

I've noticed that there is a lot of oil that has to be drained after several runs, on my pipe set up. Is this normal or am I using to much Castor oil???? When I say a lot I mean that if you hold the nose up where the pipe end is pointing towards the ground you can see drip, drip, drip, maybe a couple of teaspoons. I wonder when you store the plane, that the pipe should be to where it can drain??? At the moment I'm using 10x21 oil which is half Castor and half synthetic oil. The set up is doing great just was curious about the oil deal??? I appreciate your input.

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Offline Steve Helmick

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Re: Draining Oil from Pipes
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2011, 10:04:33 PM »
SOP with piped planes (probably same for rear mufflers) is to hand carry and store with tail down, or at least flat. You don't want that stuff clogging up the glowplug. I'm running 10/22 GMA in my PA .51, which makes Randy Aero happy. Might be good to read the pinned posts at the top of this forum. Randy has some good info in there. If you'll read it tonight, I'll read it tomorrow.  Z@@ZZZ  Steve 
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Re: Draining Oil from Pipes
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2011, 11:19:44 PM »
Hi guys,

I've noticed that there is a lot of oil that has to be drained after several runs, on my pipe set up. Is this normal or am I using to much Castor oil???? When I say a lot I mean that if you hold the nose up where the pipe end is pointing towards the ground you can see drip, drip, drip, maybe a couple of teaspoons. I wonder when you store the plane, that the pipe should be to where it can drain??? At the moment I'm using 10x21 oil which is half Castor and half synthetic oil. The set up is doing great just was curious about the oil deal??? I appreciate your input.

   I worried about that for a while, but now I just ignore it. I store my airplane nose-down. With some engines (40VF and PAs) that seems to let oil run back down into the engine and make it gummy after a while, so you have to clean it out a little when you go out flying the next time. Dribble some raw fuel in the venturi, point the airplane nose-up to get it into the cylinder, then slosh it around and flip until it loosens up. Then burp it to get it completely cleaned out and a little warm. For whatever reason, the RO-Jett seems to be able to tolerate sitting nose-down without a lot of excess oil running back into the engine, and it's at least possible to start it without loosening it up or burping it. I still burp anyway - even though it will *probably* start without it, if it doesn't, then you have have to flip it over to start, and that's always at least somewhat more risky.

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Re: Draining Oil from Pipes
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2011, 11:45:19 PM »
Hi Brett,

It sounds like this is normal, I was worried it was back to the drawing board. Yesterday the air was very heavy and I had to open up the needle about a 1/4 turn and she seemed to use a lot more fuel??? The first run the R's was low and I didn't change the setting about half way thru the flight she acted like she went lean but smoke was just pouring out the end of the pipe. She wants to run at 11,200 and that's it, no more no less. If you try to change her she just throws a fit. Yes I can change things, if I change props, venturie, amount of nitro, pipe length, she will change  but she really just like to run at that rpm and she will give ya a great ride. When I get the different props and glow plugs I ordered from Randy I'll try to change things just cause I want to play. The plane weighs 61 ounces and flys like a Nobler size plane. I'm really enjoying running pipe engines, soon maybe the Brett type Ro Jett will come in and I'll get to start all over again, Yes I'm going to try and follow Brett's set up to the letter.
Gary
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Re: Draining Oil from Pipes
« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2011, 07:38:07 PM »
Gary...We had very nice wx yesterday, and went flying. After my first flight (SV-11/piped PA .51), and the airplane had sat in the pits awhile and cooled off, I went to wipe the castor off the bottom of the fuselage and stabalizer aft of the pipe. Without a cradle, I tipped it spinner down with the spinner on the toe of my Nike. I figured that for a 15 second yob, it wouldn't be a big deal. Did I ever get yelled at! Guess I'll have to put the cradle on the list of crap to take flying.  SH^ Steve
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Re: Draining Oil from Pipes
« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2011, 08:40:48 AM »
Yup, I make a special Landing gear cradle to hang my piped stuff wheels up. Often put a rolled up hunk of paper towel in the rubber pipe deflector to stop the drip mess. Make it big enough to see so that you'll remove it before starting! Stow it flat on the way to the field.

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