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Offline frank mccune

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Antifreeze, how many times can it be used?
« on: September 19, 2015, 06:50:33 AM »
   Hi All:

   How many times can  antifreeze be used to crockpot an engine before it looses its effectiveness?


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Re: Antifreeze, how many times can it be used?
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2015, 10:47:48 AM »
I have done at least 30 engines before cleaning out the old and putting in new. It was still working fine though.
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Re: Antifreeze, how many times can it be used?
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2015, 11:30:25 AM »
I would guess it's unlimited, Frank. At some point it may need filtered. We recycle antifreeze and all it is is a series of filters and when it's done, it looks and works like new. And that's from all kinds of vehicles, contaminated with oil, carbon and all manners of sludge from engines.
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Re: Antifreeze, how many times can it be used?
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2015, 12:06:25 PM »
Until it becomes PH balanced from the acidic oil. At that point you can put it in a pan, light it on fire and burn off the castor/petroleum and keep using it.

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Re: Antifreeze, how many times can it be used?
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2015, 12:52:57 PM »
      Hello All:

       I must be using the incorrect antifreeze as after 7 hours. there is no change in the grunge on and in the engine.  I am using the least expensive Wall Mart brand that is to be mixed with water.  I think that it is the old style stuff as a 50/50 mix will produce a freezing point of -37 deg F.  In the past, I have used the crock pot method to make my engines look like the day they were manufactured.  I have no idea as to why this time I am having a problem.  It looks and feels like dried oil and not rust as it is soft and can be scraped with a fingernail.

    Suggestions?

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Re: Antifreeze, how many times can it be used?
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2015, 01:55:51 PM »
      Hello All:

       I must be using the incorrect antifreeze as after 7 hours. there is no change in the grunge on and in the engine.  I am using the least expensive Wall Mart brand that is to be mixed with water.  I think that it is the old style stuff as a 50/50 mix will produce a freezing point of -37 deg F.  In the past, I have used the crock pot method to make my engines look like the day they were manufactured.  I have no idea as to why this time I am having a problem.  It looks and feels like dried oil and not rust as it is soft and can be scraped with a fingernail.

    Suggestions?

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if you have used it with a lot of really gunked up motors, then it needs to be changed, one thing you will see when it gets contaminated with oil burned gunk is it wii stain the motors you put in, and work less effectively

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Re: Antifreeze, how many times can it be used?
« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2015, 10:46:05 PM »
Also, make sure you are using ethylene glycol, not propylene glycol.
Propylene glycol is the new hippie stuff and don't work as good  <=

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Re: Antifreeze, how many times can it be used?
« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2015, 05:33:23 AM »
      Hi Dane:

      How may one determine what type of antifreeze one is using?  I searched the container to find the ingredients to no avail.  I went by the lowest price as the new and improved products cost more.

      In any case, after 24 more hours in the crock pot with the new solution, there has been no change in the crud on the engines.

      As we speak, I am boiling the engines in a solution of dishwasher detergent and water.  I can not disassemble the engines until I get some of this crud removed.  At this time, the cylinders are glued to the cases preventing removal!  Yes, I heated the engines to about 300 deg. F but still was unable to move the cylinders. Quo vadis?

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Re: Antifreeze, how many times can it be used?
« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2015, 06:59:57 AM »
     H All:

     I got medieval with the engines, more heat and pressure, and they came apart.  Now to get them clean and reassembled.

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Re: Antifreeze, how many times can it be used?
« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2015, 10:02:47 AM »
I'm not sure Frank. There has to be a main chemical ingredient listed for poison control or the SDS sheet. Maybe post a pic, or the actual name of the product and i could look it up

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Re: Antifreeze, how many times can it be used?
« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2015, 08:49:44 AM »
Hello All: I must be using the incorrect antifreeze as after 7 hours. there is no change in the grunge on and in the engine.  I am using the least expensive Wall Mart brand that is to be mixed with water.  I think that it is the old style stuff as a 50/50 mix will produce a freezing point of -37 deg F.  In the past, I have used the crock pot method to make my engines look like the day they were manufactured.  I have no idea as to why this time I am having a problem.  It looks and feels like dried oil and not rust as it is soft and can be scraped with a fingernail. Suggestions? Tia, Frank McCune

"If it doesn't budge, get a bigger hammer."  ;D

7 hours is way too short, IMO. I'd give it at least 24 hours, and in some cases I have gone 48 and 72 hours. This is using a percolator coffee pot. Thick enough grunge, I've found the crock method softens, then use a worn tooth brush to scrub. I don't think there are any cut and dried methods, and sometimes a little elbow grease will be required on stubborn grunge along with other solvents for a complete removal.

Regarding how often antifreeze can be used, I'm using a percolator coffee pot, which I can use a smaller quantity to fully immerse an engine. I've found that reuse ends up coating the 2nd or 3rd engine with castor spooge, which then must be cleaned off, better off starting off with a fresh batch especially after cleaning a really spooged up engine.

Had a few claim that propylene glycol works as good as ethylene glycol in other forums. I don't know, only experience is with the EG not PG stuff so can't say.

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Re: Antifreeze, how many times can it be used?
« Reply #11 on: September 25, 2015, 09:26:46 AM »
I generally scrub the engines after crockpotting them with dishwashing liquid and a toothbrush to finish the job. Joy seems to do a good job as that is what my wife uses. It will remove any castor grunge left on the engine and prepares it for drying with a heat gun. I then put a light film of Rislone on all surfaces of steel, brass, and iron.

If you rinse the parts in really hot water they will tend to start the drying process pretty quick. Blot with a towel and heat with the heat gun to finish drying. If you have painted parts it will remove the paint most times and will need to be repainted like McCoy Red Heads. Never put and Orwick in the crockpot if you want the original paint on it.
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Re: Antifreeze, how many times can it be used?
« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2015, 09:49:44 AM »
It removed the paint off my Testors McCoy .35 Red Heads, but found that the engines looked quite cool without it, even though I caused a few gents to shriek in horror that I broke all tradition, used these engines nekkid, lol.  LL~


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