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Speed,Combat,Scale,Racing => Combat => Topic started by: C.T. Schaefer on June 24, 2015, 06:38:35 PM
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It's not too early to start up some chatter about the 3rd Festival being held on September 20 at the Garden State Circle Burners field. The first two have been well received with many different oldies going up in the air. There are no rules other than flying safely. Mostly ships go up one at a time but there were a couple of 'matches' last year. The goal is to gather as many combat ships from the beginning to, roughly, the mid 70's. Wood planes. I expect to have 2 or 3 circles for us to use. We ask for a $5 donation for all participants. This all goes to GSCB to help them maintain the field. There will be food available as well.
Last year I made a nice prize, endorsed by LS himself, for the person with the fastest Baffle piston powered plane. Participation was light so it will be offered again. In fairness I will include the ST G-21 .35 non-schnuerle this year. We have several of the ABC .36x motors running. They work well so bring out your best junk, tip the can and go for the speed!! Come out for the fun of it! C.T. Schaefer
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LOOKING FORWARD TO IT!
I've got my vacation time marked off, and the wife and I will be making our plans within a week or so. (i.e. A motel to stay at in NJ, places to see coming back through W. Virginia, etc.)
Was hoping to have another airplane built to bring along with the others... but that's looking doubtful. (Time issues among other things.)
Vintage combat planes RULE!
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I won't be coming to NJ, but I have an actual flyable Equalizer. G21/35 with a nylon 88.
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This is a definite highlight of the year for me. My fleet is growing for this event.
This year I'll have;
Greased Lightning -35x seriesIII
Killer-36x
Combat Streak- la 25
Voodoo 36x
Super Satan-7 Straight wing 36x
Super Satan-12 Taper wing 36x
Bl...
looking forward to meeting Andre
See you there!
Tom Luciano
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I'm gonna bring my fleet too #^
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Alas, I may only have a trio of planes to bring:
Wooten Demon - 36X powered.
Scarinzi Super Satin (tapered wing) - LS 36X powered.
Combat Cat - 36X powered.
However, I can still hope for a forth plane IF they'll ever get my new 16' x 20' hobby building finished so I can move my hobbies into it. This new building is where I'll be building/storing my airplanes along with some of my other hobbies.
FWIW: I had to repair an age/fatigue related internal control issue on my Super Satin. I think it's time to retire it before something bad happens to it. SO... I think I'm gonna' have ol' Larry autograph it, and it will be hung up in a place of distinction here at my house.
Tom: I too am looking forward to meeting the East Coast Crazies as well as others from all over the big ol' USA/Canada! Also, think: "Italian Hot Dog". (Mmmmmm!)
IT WILL BE EPIC!!!
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My son Shawn and I are looking forward to the day. Dennis Lipsett here on the forum has graciously provided us with additional models for the event. Thank you Dennis. In addition, Marvin Denny was exceptionally helpful in providing me with hard to find Fox parts. Both individuals were inspirational and helpful. We've had a busy year so far which has certainly had to sideline certain fun activities. This is a good time for all who attends.
T-Square Fox .36X
Consolidated WoW Early version Fox Rocket with the bolt on front end
Half Fast Fox .35X
Sneeker Honkin Fox .35 stunt
Consolidated Jubilee FP.20
Wooten Demon extended booms Fox Mk III
Combat Streak Currently a MAX-S .35 engine possibly to be changed
Whipsaw Fox .15
Voodoo Supertiger .35 G-21
I think for me it's getting all this stuff ready and going prior to the event. I receive a lot of satisfaction from getting all this stuff to work and fly well trouble free. It becomes quite rewarding to just grab a handle and go fly. Ken
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Add this one ! Scarinzi KILLER - Fox 36x standard
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Frank, Looking good!
Andre- Italian Hot Dog= Jimmy Buff's y1
Tom
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Keeping our priorities in line, I also vote for Jimmy Buff's. ;D
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If he is willing, I believe that GSCB member Ron"The Deli Guy" could make-up a nice Jimmy Buff's (Irvington , NJ) Style Italian Hot Dog Sandwich- Fried Hot Dog/Fried Potatos/Onions/Peppers in a 1/2 moon" pocket" roll.
If there is enough interest and we pre-pay him BEFORE , perhaps, just perhaps, he just might. :P
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Tonight we got out and flew exclusively 1958 Larry Scarinzi designed Killers. We had a absolute blast. Larry brought the original pictured in front and flew it. War wounds and all, that plane is 57 years old. Johnson for power. Frank's and mine had their first flights with positive results.
Front Row- Larry Scarinzi Original Johnson .35
2nd Row Left- Tom Hampshire Johnson .35
2nd Row Right- Tom Schaefer Fox Rocket
3rd Row Left- Tom Schaefer Fox stunt
3rd Row Right- Tom Luciano Fox .36xbb
4th Row- Frank Imbriaco Fox .36 Standard
The Killers are ready to go for September!!!!
Tom
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I think we all agree. Good old planes. Good old fun! Great flying site too. (Thanks Frank) All is not as it seems with my planes. The black one has a Rocket .40 and the white one a Stunt .29. Little hammer and a sledge hammer. Both work well. Cheers to all!
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Thanks for the photos, Tom L.
Glad we all had so much fun with these great vintage L.S. ships
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It's getting closer!
Hey Frank... you gonna' have some "Scramblers" there? Will Dan Domino be there?
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Andre:
I will be there with a new Scrambler powered by my original LS FOX 36X BB and my new Fox 36 Standard powered Killer.
To my knowledge, Dan has not rekindled his ukie interests. Last I saw him, he was doing some free flight.
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When I started Combat Graffiti I knew there were not enough combat/ craftsman here in the NW to create the event. I took the Venue to Vancouver B.C. There we have master builders who used to fly combat back in the day. There are a few in the Seattle area but they were not really interested in the idea. Funny isn't it? There were so many odd looking and interesting ideas from 1950 to the mid 60's that I consider "the golden age" of combat. They were by no means the best flying things, but so innovative. In my research for this event, I tried fairly hard with interviews, to learn where combat originated. Come to find out, it's a pickle barrel topic and anyone asking it is just itchin for a fight. Best I can determine is it happened almost immediately after u/c was developed. My gut tells me Texas or Detroit, but who knows, maybe it was Obie after he developed the 2 line system.
You guys have taken the idea to a great level, good on ya.
Ken Burdick
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Frank:
Great! Looking forward to seeing one fly! Always thought the airplane and article was cool, but no way this lazy guy was going to build one! BTW: What are you calling a "Fox 36 Standard"? I haven't heard that term used before.
Ken:
Your Combat Graffiti idea was great. Way too far from me to seriously consider attending, but I always enjoyed the pics n' stuff on the net following the event.
IMHO, in regards to a combat flyer that is still actively competing: Seems that it's harder to attract their interest for an event that is based on nostalgia, the older airplanes/engines, and the fun of years gone by. Typically, combat is about extracting the most performance out of a system and/or cutting edge (pun!) technology/etc. Thus, they may not get too excited about an LS-tuned 36X on the nose of a Scrambler turnin' n' burnin' as us vintage crazies can!
Andre
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I wish they still had it here in washington, i just got back into combat and started buying combat planes from yesteryear, and engines too, so now not sure ifi want to sell some off or keep them
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Andre,
you are spot on about combat flyers and who would attend or go to the work to produce pristine looking antiques. The rules were designed with that in mind. I made an observation that many stunt flyers used to fly combat but hated the loss of their beautiful work.....they eventually gravitated to stunt and superior finishes. My thought was to attempt to get these guys to build the old stuff, finish as they would a PA ship and judge them accordingly. It's more of a scale event with limited combat thrown in for the fun of it. There is a center marshal to prevent the combat flyer in entrants to take over. If it get's in a line entanglement or too heated, the match is stopped. The emphasis is to appreciate the work involved, reward for it, have some fun.
Cheers n Enyas
Ken
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Frank:
BTW: What are you calling a "Fox 36 Standard"?
Andre:I'm referring to the plain bearing, shiny crankcase Fox 36 and 29 made in the early 70s .Smaller than the 36x,
Ken : You're right-A fair number of us combat fliers of yore are concentrating on stunt these days .
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there's a number of reasons guys stop flying combat, no matter what that is we all loved the fun parts of it. So Combat Graffiti was designed to be a builders event. We all relearned how to apply silk, used lots of dope and poly u 2 part. Mater builders such as Greg Davis built front row stunt quality deltas and we didn't wreck a model. The rules were structured so that an average builder like myself could actually win the contest with a good model and some good flying. In my fleet are: Super swoop, Super Whipsaw, Big Iron, Blitz, WoW, Half Fast 11, Missourian (kitted by buildright)
on the winter list is the T-Square and the Sweet Sweep.
It's sort of addicting :)!
Ken
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Frank:
Ah! Got it! The 36 inside a lightened and shorter case. (Thus it uses a different crankshaft than the 36X.) During my middle stint at Fox Mfg, I inherited the 36 production line during its first run. The engine had "issues" that had to be solved. Long story best told another time. Can't really recall the "official" name of that engine, but I "think" I remember the labels saying "Fox 36 C/L" or, maybe it was "Fox 36 Sport"... ??? Too many decades have passed.
Ken:
Load those bad boys up and come on out to NJ this September!!
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Andre,
you are spot on about combat flyers and who would attend or go to the work to produce pristine looking antiques. The rules were designed with that in mind. I made an observation that many stunt flyers used to fly combat but hated the loss of their beautiful work.....they eventually gravitated to stunt and superior finishes. My thought was to attempt to get these guys to build the old stuff, finish as they would a PA ship and judge them accordingly. It's more of a scale event with limited combat thrown in for the fun of it. There is a center marshal to prevent the combat flyer in entrants to take over. If it get's in a line entanglement or too heated, the match is stopped. The emphasis is to appreciate the work involved, reward for it, have some fun.
Cheers n Enyas
Ken
Hi Ken:
I fall into the category you mentioned in your post. I used to love to build combat ships, but I was told that I made them too pretty. :-\ I've decided to build a few more now that I've retired from Nats level stunt competition. My first one is the Sweet Sweep. I built the wing for it in my Lost-Foam system. In fact, many of the Killers that have been built around here were constructed in a Lost-Foam fixture. You might notice that the center section is a bit different than the stock Sweet Sweep. I've decided to try one with an electric motor. Hope that doesn't get me black balled from this fun event... ::)
I've been in touch with Dave Adamisin about the motor/battery systems that they use in electric pylon racing. It won't run too long, but I predict it will be fast! ;D
Next up will be a Werewolf, then a Lethal Blast, a Blitz, and if I can convince Larry to part with the plans, a Sting Ray! #^
I'm gonna have some fun!
Later - Bob Hunt
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Bob Hunt blurted out...
"I've decided to try one with an electric motor. Hope that doesn't get me black balled from this fun event..."
Blasphemy! Blasphemy!
Off with his head!
EVERYBODY that's ANYBODY in Vintage Combat Planedom knows that REAL men use REAL combat engines to power their vintage combat airplanes. It simply WOULD not be RIGHT and PROPER to use a buzzing electric motor thingie on a detailed, exact replica of a "Lil' Doozie" combat airplane (and so forth).
That excellent looking Sweet Sweep you're building will hang its head in shame at the sight of a buzz bomb on its nose. So sad.
I'll provide the feathers, guys... one of you needs to bring the tar...
LL~
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Gosh; I wonder if there is a stunt contest in the area on that day... :-\
I'm pretty well committed to the electric nose at this point, so I'll just make engine noises with my mouth when I fly. Hey, save that tar; my driveway needs sealing... <=
Looking forward to meeting you Andre - Bob
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Bob:
Seriously: Welcome to fold comprised of us vintage combat crazies. Looking forward to meeting you as well and looking forward to seeing that Sweet Sweep and watching it fly!
Mouth engine noises will suffice provided the sounds emitted properly replicate the sounds of an engine appropriate to the era of the Sweet Sweep. Otherwise it's tar n' feather time, baby!
:D
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I'm practicing by best Johnson 35 sound right now; my dog thinks I'm crazy. He's a very astute dog... Perhaps this might be a whole new career opportunity for sports impressionist Frank Caliendo. ::)
Later - Bob
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Bob- last time I saw Larry, at Brodaks, I asked him about Sting Ray also. He told me it was nothing more than Werewolf with the tips reversed and the cowl added. Are Werewolf plans available? I've started building my Jim Mears designed Raunchy. Might also build Wooten Sneaker from my Umland kit.
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Hi Lyle:
Actually I'm very familiar with the Sting Ray as I was a member of the Union club in the 1950s and '60s and got to watch Larry fly each new plane he built (and there were a ton of them!). The Sting Ray is in essence a Greased Lightning with a swept forward leading edge. Larry and I have spoken about this ship and a possible reprise of it for years. It would be a natural to be constructed in the Lost-Foam system. Again, it would be an electric powered model for me.
Later - Bob
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Bob- thanks for mom or jogger, yes it was Greased Lightning he mentioned. I mixed it up with Werewolf. I was at Snowbird meet , maybe 1964? and saw him fly his StingRay. I have a pic (35 mm slide) of it on the table. Same meet I got to see Harold Price Valkyre and his "jet" style with the retracts, and John D's, blue colored Falcon. Pic of that Falcon is on Mike's Bluesky web site. Wonderful memories
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I meant to type "memory jogger ". Darn spell ck.
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10-4 on the spell check, Lyle; had me a bit worried there for a moment...
Check out the attached photos of Larry with his Grey Ghost. I know this is a Combat forum, and this is a Stunt plane, but I thought it appropriate as this stunt model went faster than most of the combat ships of the era. It is another model that I hope to build now that I am in "fun" mode. Also attached is a photo of Larry and Ginger with Larry's Gay Devil. It, too, was nothing more than a combat ship of the era fitted with a cockpit and landing gear!
Later - Bob
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Did Larry ever fly a slow plane. Even at VSC it was amazing how fast he would fly.
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F8U Crusader was the model I remember at Snowbird meet. It had retracts powered by a custom machined modification of Cox .010 to pressurize the mechanism. I have photo of Crusader taken same day at Snowbird meet.
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Bob,
We need to welcome you down here, where us vintage combat junkies hang out. The sweet sweep is looking....um sweet! I'm looking forward to seeing the Electra sweet sweep fly!
I'm also building a plane (as you know) in a lost foam fixture. The aforementioned Blitz. Quick work in the fixture! Pacifier pod epoxy coat drying now. Close it up and start sanding then, Silk baby! Hope to have in the air first week of Sept.
Tom
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Hi Bob.
Welcome to the geezer club....:)
The vintage combat stuff is really fun in a collectors sort of way. I think your idea of lectric is great and let me know how it works out. me...I want to break my arm trying to start these old time POS's my best seems to be Enya .29 and worst is balky but faster Fox black head I got from Marvin Denny.
I have a sweet sweep in the basement waiting for winter building. Are you going to use silk and dope?
Ken
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Looking good Tom. Like the ribs!
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some of the combat G models
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I'm not getting much luck with the photo's but will keep sending one at a time
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Greg Davis built combat streak
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More models
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Missourian as kitted by Buildright
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one last shot to see if this one will fit the frame here
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WOW!! I have one too. Built from the Tom Niebuhr kit. K&B Green on pressure. Fun. A little hairy. Last flown this summer. 18.3/7 laps. That Scrapper is really nice. Never had one but it's looks really appeal to me. What motor you got on it? Anyone have plans or kit?
It's lots of fun flying these old planes back to back to see and feel the evolution in design and equipment that took place in less than 15 years! WOW/Greenhead vs Voodoo/ 36x BB. Each one is quite a different experience, ain't it? Would I be forgiven for this...... It's a Blast
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The Scrapper was built by Nationals champ in scale and speed, Barry Hobkirk. There is no kit per se but the plans can be purchased from Barry Baxter at his plans service.
All the models are old school finish and judged on such including the engine shown in the plan set.
Lotta fun
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The werewolf was built by a master molder from Vancouver B.C. who builds and wins in giant R/C scale........it's a beautiful piece of work
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Great pics everyone!!
Re: "Lost Foam Jig" technique...
One of these days, I gotta' find out more about this here "lost foam jig" thingie.
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StingRay
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Built me a super satin today to add to my fleet...cover it tomorrow..jim
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Great pics everyone!!
Re: "Lost Foam Jig" technique...
One of these days, I gotta' find out more about this here "lost foam jig" thingie.
Hi Andre:
I'd be most pleased to send you - or anyone here who might be interested - a set of the PDF files that make up a Lost-Foam Wing Building System manual. All I ask is that you send me a personal email message (not one through the message board here) to which I can respond and attach the files. There are four PDF files and they are fairly large, so it will require me to send them out in separate emails. Glad to do it!
Attached are a few photos of wings being built in the Lost-Foam system. Please excuse the fact that most all of them are CL Stunt wings... :-\
Later - Bob Hunt
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Jim,
You're like a machine banging these planes out! Ah, the Super Satan, truly my favorite! #^
They are some great pictures from Combat Graffiti!
I think I'm going to hit up LS for a set of Werewolf plans. I've never seen one in the air.
Tom
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I am slowly but slowly building a Jerkline Special.
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Building a Sneeker and a Winder.
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now you're talking Al....break out the weird stuff!
Love it!
K
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THREE MORE WEEKS!!!!
Yup... come Wednesday night September 16th, "The Black" will be loaded with combat planes and fuel and the flight boxes and all that jazz... then after getting home from work on Thursday the 17th in goes the luggage... and the trek to NJ begins! We should hit NJ sometime Saturday about lunchtime or early afternoon. (Can you say "Italian Hot Dog"?)
This is gonna' be EPIC!!
I've been prepping planes, cleaning engines, getting fresh ignition batteries, got some fresh bladder material in the flight box, some new pacifiers... fuel... DID I MENTIONE I'M STOKED???
I've also be fanning my fires by browsing some of my old model airplane magazines... browsing my stash of old combat plane articles... good stuff Maynard!
OH... and then I found THESE little jewels (videos) from Ken Burdick's "Combat Graffiti" event in BC. Now if this don't get 'ya in the mood... you ain't moodable!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMFgEuIPCH4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ldd_Pz1wOCQ
Did I mention it's only THREE MORE WEEKS???
<= #^ n~
P.S. Bob Hunt: When I get back from NJ I want to get the PDF's and see what the Lost Foam technique is about. I have a tapered wing combat plane or two I'd like to build and got a feeling the LFT may be a big help in building straight wings.
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I have this sitting in my garage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40GYZvVlBuk
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Neat car Al!
The Middlesex Youtube channel also has some nostalgic old film of C/L during 1966, too. Is that "The Butcher" flying his combat plane at the 3:14 mark?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xosSkRQglwg
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THREE MORE WEEKS!!!!
Yup... come Wednesday night September 16th, "The Black" will be loaded with combat planes and fuel and the flight boxes and all that jazz... then after getting home from work on Thursday the 17th in goes the luggage... and the trek to NJ begins! We should hit NJ sometime Saturday about lunchtime or early afternoon. (Can you say "Italian Hot Dog"?)
This is gonna' be EPIC!!
I've been prepping planes, cleaning engines, getting fresh ignition batteries, got some fresh bladder material in the flight box, some new pacifiers... fuel... DID I MENTIONE I'M STOKED???
I've also be fanning my fires by browsing some of my old model airplane magazines... browsing my stash of old combat plane articles... good stuff Maynard!
OH... and then I found THESE little jewels (videos) from Ken Burdick's "Combat Graffiti" event in BC. Now if this don't get 'ya in the mood... you ain't moodable!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMFgEuIPCH4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ldd_Pz1wOCQ
Hey... those are my videos.. I put those two together for Ken Burdick a while back to swap for some tips to fly F2D. :) that's before I got more serious into flying stunt of course. H^^
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Thanks for stepping in, Joe and letting us know that was your work! I looked for credits at the ends of the vids and didn't find anything.
Anyway... cool videos!
I may be knockin' on yer door to learn how to put something like that together myself!
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Andre, Thanks for keeping this thread jumping. I know of several new planes being built, right now, for The Event. We have been flying them this summer and getting cranked up! Jimmy Buff's Kennilworth NJ open 11am - 9pm Sat. ;D
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I finally updated the pictures in the combat museum. Too many to put here, so look at them on my facebook page
https://www.facebook.com/bob.mears.10/media_set?set=a.10201134603751700.1073741827.1367679344&type=3
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Good stuff Bob!
Tom
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That is one fantastic collection of combat planes. The lead photo of the group has to be from the early days. Be nice if you could post it here with names. Isn't that Riley Wooten his self in the middle?
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Yes, the Riles in the middle. He will be here in Lubbock this weekend to judge our competition. Thats myself, my brother Andy, and my Father James sitting to the right of Riley. All those guys were the bad ass combat pilots in Lubbock at the time. That should have been about 1962
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Yes, the Riles in the middle. He will be here in Lubbock this weekend to judge our competition. Thats myself, my brother Andy, and my Father James sitting to the right of Riley. All those guys were the bad ass combat pilots in Lubbock at the time. That should have been about 1962
Awesome page Bob ! I just can't believe you said the Winder was a good kit... you may be the only person in the world that ever said that y1 After I built my Winder I put together 2 Voodoos from a 40 year old double kit, and it was like comparing a VW to a Porsche....
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CT:
'Ya reckon' I'm pumped up about the GSCB's VCF event??? Think I'm bouncing off the wall?? #^
Bob:
Wow, just WOW! What a fantastic work you're doing. Seeing your museum is on my "Bucket List"... probably have to be after I retire in about 2 1/2 years... but I HAVE to see that. Note to others: I'M the one that sold him that Vampire kit!! (Ain't I sumpthin'?)
Also, Bob, your facebook page is excellent. I do hope you can continue to digitize and post your very historic combat pictures.
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I guess I'm pretty committed to it now. I'm getting permits now to build another building to house these things. I still have 30 more kits to build!
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Awesome page Bob ! I just can't believe you said the Winder was a good kit... you may be the only person in the world that ever said that y1 After I built my Winder I put together 2 Voodoos from a 40 year old double kit, and it was like comparing a VW to a Porsche....
Must know-which do you consider the VW??
RW
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Must know-which do you consider the VW??
RW
I should have specified much more clearly... the Winder kit was the VW. Horrible wood and die crushing. Nothing fit. The Voodoo kit, despite the age, was a treat to assemble.
They both fly great, though completely different....
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there was nothing quite like a Sterling kit. Once I finally got my Winder built, it shed the wing after a few moves.....you had to have "help" to shed a voodoo wing. LL~
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Good looking airplanes, Badbill!
My last Voodoo was a veteran of many, MANY flights. It was a repli-kit by a cottage industry that's long gone. (Built it in the early 1990s.) I flew the wings off that thing, literally. I suspected the leading edge was too soft out of the box, and my suspicion eventually proved correct. After several years and many flights, there began to be a leading edge fatigue fracture just outboard of the nose pod. I cut into it, and spliced/epoxied on some plywood doublers hoping to head off the failure. This worked for almost another decade. Then, while showing off in an exhibition flight at a Gluedobbers meet... it finally happened: The outboard wing snapped off, and that was that. I WILL be building at least a couple more Voodoo's, one is likely going to be powered by a Johnson CS, the other will be a replica of a Voodoo that an old friend used to fly, which will be powered by a Fox 36X as its predecessor was.
Shame about my last Voodoo. I had it balanced perfectly, it stayed straight and true, and had a haulin' 36X on it. It would snap and turn on a dime, was still mighty fast even on 10%... and just a ton of fun to own/fly. Alas, though, it died a glorious death getting "oooo's" and "ahhhh's" from the troops at said event. Upside: It's demise was spectacular!
A pic of the one I mention...
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Just finishing up my second Voodoo from the double kit :-) This one will have an ST G21 35 on it.
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what a great looking voodoo! What was the finish material?
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I posted the following photos over on the Open Forum, but thought I should post them here as well.
I've been working hard on the nose of my Sweet Sweep after a week long sabbatical from the project. I still hope to finish it in time for the Fly-In at the GSCB field on the 20th.
Later - Bob Hunt
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Here are a few more photos of the electric motor pod on the Sweet Sweep. Note the annular inlet around the spinner in the last few photos. That is a very effective way of cooling the motor. ;D
Later - Bob
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Bob:
My comments in the other vintage combat thread still holds true!!
Badbill:
Forgot to say yesterday that your Voodoo is lean and mean looking! Good job!
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My comments in the other vintage combat thread still holds true!!
Badbill:
Forgot to say yesterday that your Voodoo is lean and mean looking! Good job!
what a great looking voodoo! What was the finish material?
Thanks Guys, much appreciated. Both Voodoos are covered in Monokote, Lustrekote paint trim. Graphics on both courtesy of CFC Graphics.
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HOLY CRAP BOB! That thing is outrageous. Hope you're working on the motor sounds. Maybe add a smoke generator like on the old Lionels? :! TS
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Yup, we will be listening closely for the proper sounds of a Johnson CS to be replicated by Bob's talented vocal chords.
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Thanks for the kudos guys. This has been a fun project! My throat is sore from practicing engine noises; I've decided to try and emulate an engine that is fitted with a good muffler... <=
Got the control system in over the weekend, and sheeted the center section. Should have the fuselage and the tail built by late tonight. I just might make it! #^
I fabricated the bellcrank from .093 G-10 material. The Lost-Foam system allows the center section sheeting to be installed without any pins. I do one side at a time and tape the sheeting to the back of the leading edge shell at the front, and to the front of the TE piece at the rear. Then I lay the wing in the Lost-Foam cradle, with the glued sheeting towards the cradle, and weight it down until dry. The result is a perfect fit with no pins needed!
Later - Bob
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If it comes down to it, you can mount a playing card to flap against the back of the prop. Like we used to do to bicycle spokes as a kid.
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...or a balloon! ;D
Bob
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Balloons sounded better
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If I use the balloons and one breaks, do I win the Balloon Bust contest? LL~
Bob
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If I use the balloons and one breaks, do I win the Balloon Bust contest? LL~
Bob
" ROCKETRY " for the old timers
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Hey... those are my videos.. I put those two together for Ken Burdick a while back to swap for some tips to fly F2D. :) that's before I got more serious into flying stunt of course. H^^
Sure hope we can get more of these video's from the next event!
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Guys.
Joe assembled the pictures and music I sent him for the Combat Graffiti video that has the 55 chev on the front. He selected the order of it and the music, it was a great collaboration and Joe has real talent.
The 'Buddy Holly" video was his own collection of video and pictures from the first Combat Graffiti contest. I love the Holly intro then you get hit in the face with a pie as Kelley Crazier fades into view wearing a wig and holding a guitar. The heckler is combat champion Greg Davis and long time friend of both Kelley and Joe. if you like the idea of doing this, you will need to fiddle around with u-tube and load pictures into it. Joe has a real talent for the combination of music and pictures, so he get's to take a big bow. What he assembled and created is a favorite of many combat flyers around the world.
Ken Burdick
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(Is that "The Butcher" flying his combat plane at the 3:14 mark)
It sure is, and that's Larry Scarinzi at 4:14 wearing the hat H^^. I'm the skinny kid with the twin power by two Fox 35 stunts. :)
Al
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xosSkRQglwg
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Hi Al:
Wow... as I watched that again, I'm envious of you guys and the great times you enjoyed during part of the heyday of C/L. That looked like so much fun! Great friends, guys/gals flying excellent looking airplanes all day long... and I can almost smell the aroma coming off that grill! How old were you in that clip?
Most of my younger years I was a "lone wolf" not by choice, but because of situation. Over the decades, I've only had the opportunity to be a part of some neat C/L gatherings a few times. My most plentiful (and memorable) C/L memories was "That Magic Summer" (1970) that I discovered, and began flying with, the Fort Smith, Arkansas C/L fliers at the old FS Airport flying field. That was a great spring/summer/autumn.
Very much looking forward to meeting you, and the other East Coast Crazies, the Sunday after next!!! (Only 9 days!)
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(How old were you in that clip)
Andre, I was twelve or thirteen years old 0:01. Fired that inboard Fox up in 7 flips (NO GLOVE), but the outboard engine had dirt in the needle. The older guys came to help out and I got the 2nd Fox running. My best friend and flying buddy Richie Hollywood 0:43 (black shirt) is holding the twin while I start the engines. I remember that day like it just happened yesterday and still have the Foxes. Frank listed the names of most everyone else in the video in an earlier post. George 0:14 and his son Paul Rizkalla 0:39, Frank DeCicco 0:20, Bill" The Butcher " Stauback 3:14, Club President Vernon "Mr." Davies at the grill 3:42, Larry(wearing hat) walking with Al Needleman 4:14, (his fuel guy by night and a pharmacist by day), team of George Schnebbe and Howie Boutiliette. Some others- Greg Cerillo, Mike Hotra and I think maybe Don Shulman (Leon's son/ Jason's Dad), Wayne Colgan 5:41. I need Frank to fill in the rest. I wish I had my fast combat plane "THE SLASHER" in the video, but that came a couple of years later. I still have the remains of it and will build a new one for next year.
Al
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Andre:
The sad part is that so many of the guys are gone : Richie Hollywood, "Butcher Bill" Staubach, Frank DeCicco, Howie B. , George S., Vernon Davies , and more including the great Harold "Red Reinhart", arguably the finest flyer/designer of stunt and combat aircraft from the late 40's -late 50s.
The talent that came out of this club in Union NJ is mind blowing. PLYMOUTH and MIRROR MEET WINNERS, Multiple NATS and World Champions- Multiple AMA Hall of Famers- Multiple PAMPA Hall of Famers- Highly respected Designers and Pioneers of U/C , Free Flight and R/C ships-Engine gurus and on and on.
The neat thing was that all the greats were /are regular guys who were/are pals with shmoes and beginners; didn't matter. I sometimes think the key was that we ate together after every meeting at one or two local eateries and b.s. 'ed until near midnight.
Someday, a book needs to written about the UMAC experience. Scarinzi did a write up for the AMA in the early 60s ,but the accomplishments could fill a book.
Guys, I know that there were and still are other fine clubs like that, but this one took the cake. My current primary flying club( I'm a member of several and rather not mention names of clubs here) fills my need as a great place to fly, only.
There is virtually no camaraderie. SAD !!
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Al:
Thanks for the time slots of other notable "characters" from that time and place! Once you pointed it out, I recognized Larry immediately. So many pioneer C/L people in that video and even more associated with the UMAC'ers. In 1966 I was 14 years old. You were much farther along in C/L than I was at the time: I think I was still trying to fart with the plastic .049 airplanes and learning to build balsa C/L .049 kits.
Within a very short time from the above time frame, I purchased my first "big" engines: A Fox 35 Stunt that went onto the front of a Magician, and a Fox 36X that eventually ended up on the front of a Vampire. I still have both engines. The Fox 36X will be on the nose of a Combat Cat that will be with me at the meet come 8 days from now, and I think the 35 Stunt will eventually get back onto the nose of a Magician (Brodak's version).
Frank:
It is always sad to experience the passing of iconic individuals. Indeed, a good book of all the accomplishments would be great.
I mentioned "That Magic Summer" that I was able to enjoy in 1970. Even though C/L was on the downturn in the Fort Smith, AR, area, there was still a good amount of C/L flyers that would show up each Sunday at the field. I can recall airplanes around about half the asphalt circle, and that many or more sitting off in the grass. It was rare for there to be long stretches of nothing in the air. My stuff was always over at the "combat circle" (center marked by a concrete disk), for I was learning to build decent airplanes and learning to fly the maneuvers. (Using bladder pressurized 36X powered Demon's of all things!) I wasn't the least bit interested in stunt... combat planes was where it was at for me even at that age.
And yes, the camaraderie was great. We would all sit around in lawn chairs and talk C/L and stuff... drink cold soda pop's n' eat chips... and BS in general. Often times after the sun had set, the lines had been rolled up, and the planes loaded, we would head for a pizza place and the camaraderie continued until ??-thirty.
Hey... let's make these memories happen again come the Sunday after next!
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According to Weather.com, the weather forecast for Whippany, NJ this Sunday:
Low: 56
High: 82
Partly Cloudy
Chance of Rain: 10%
Wind: NNW 7 MPH
Hey, the above looks plenty do-able!! Great that there's a low chance of rain. Rain on a flying day sucks!
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Less than 24 hours and we blast-off!! #^
As of a few minutes ago, the National Weather Service forecast for the area is as follows:
Sunday: Partly sunny, with a high near 77.
Hope that forecast holds!!
Weather.com wasn't as optimistic:
Sunday: Mostly sunny. 20% chance of showers. High 79.
Still not a bad forecast... but that pesky 20% thing.
Flight check: Airplanes are loaded, fuel is loaded, flight box and flight tray loaded, lawn chairs loaded, ice chest stocked with bottled water and loaded. Once we're home from work tomorrow afternoon/evening, it's throw the last minute travel luggage in, fire up The Black, and point it eastward and drive 'til we drop!
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That % chance of rain reminded me of when we were at the 70 Chicago NATS we were listening to the radio station give the weather report. He stated Chicago had a 20% chance of rain in which he also stated then means that 20% of Chicago might get rain. Don't think we got a drop of rain that whole week.
Forgot to add, DON'T FORGET PICTURES, LOTS OF THEM......
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Hey Guys! Two days to go. Sneaking a peek at weather and it looks ok. One word. No food at the site although there are places nearby. Might want to bring some PBJ or granola bars so as not to miss the action! See you then. TS
PS Reminder. The LS speed challenge is free to enter. Rules: A baffle piston Fox .36 or a non-schnuerle S-T G21 .35. There is a 'significant major award' available to the 'winner'. Hopefully, presented by LS hisself.
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CORRECTION. I got it wrong. There WILL BE FOOD available on site tomorrow #^
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We made it! We're in New Joisey! People talk weird up here! (Or am I the one that talks weird?)
My hat goes off to ALL of you that live here! H^^ Wild intersections (right turns ONLY), wild drivers (outta' my way you slow OAKIE!!)... but some great C/L folk!
No Italian Hot Dog YET... but already had some GREAT food and some GREAT company!
Super enjoyed our visit with Larry and Ginger. We all went out and ate some SUPERB Pizza at a local pizza shop. Saw The Basement... what a living museum that is, and what a living legend we have in Larry Scarinzi. Tomorrow I get to meet the East Coast Crazies mano u mano. Looking forward to meeting Tom "CT", Al, Frank, Tom L., and ??? else?
Probably going to be more this year than last year, and last year was BIG.
Looking forward to hitting the field in the morning and enjoying one of the best hobbies going!
Will try to check in tomorrow after the event and share some quick impressions.
See 'ya!
Andre
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So how did the vintage combat picnic go? Any details or video.
K
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It ended up on the 'Open' forum. Lots to read and see!! Lots of fun too. TS
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THE VINTAGE COMBAT FESTIVAL- JUST THREE SHORT MONTHS AWAY- MAKE YOUR PLANS TO ATTEND SEPT 2016 !
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THE VINTAGE COMBAT FESTIVAL- JUST THREE SHORT MONTHS AWAY- MAKE YOUR PLANS TO ATTEND SEPT 2016 !
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Rebuilding a Renegade just for this event ...
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Now yer talkin'! We have a couple of other different planes coming along too.
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It seems that Andre Ming has an agenda... He is running a combat fest on Oct. 8 and 9 in Tulsa or so. Shall we make it a road trip?
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Tom...and other east of Mississippi folks... remember A Ming plans of this to be EPIC
best bring your good stuff....
Jest sayin
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Well, here we are , just under a month to go to the FOURTH ANNUAL VINTAGE COMBAT FESTIVAL ! We all hope for another great turnout on SEPTEMBER 25, 2016 AT THE GARDEN STATE CIRCLE BURNER FIELD - LINCOLN PARK , NJ.
I understand that there will be a number of new ships this year. Today , "Ernie from Carteret" told me that he will have a new Hornet ready for the day. I will have my new ST C 35 Voodoo, my Fox 36x BB ( Brian Gardner p/l/r) SCRAMBLER and my Fox 36 Killer.
It'd be great if all who plan to attend tell us what they plan to bring out this year. LARRY SCARINZI TOLD ME THAT HE'LL HAVE OUT HIS FLEET.
BOB HUNT- SAID THAT HE WILL TRY TO HAVE HIS SWEET SWEEP READY.
OK, the rest can speak for themselves.
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I have a Berkeley Lancer under construction. Should be ready in time. Started a build thread in the Building Section.
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I got look yesterday at the wing of this ship and Jim has another winner.
Keep the flame going.
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The advanced forecast looks really good. An informal poll at yesterday's GSCB Fall Stunt Meet among the fraternity tells me that we will have another great turnout !
Scarinzi promises to bring his fleet- all are amazing examples of craftsmanship and design.
With cheap gas aplenty( around $1.85 a gallon in NJ) , this is a real opportunity to see, fly or just spectate one of the largest gatherings of vintage combat aircraft anywhere. Worth a long distance ride !
The engine technology (particularly for the Fox 36x) has been brought up to modern day race engine standards. Simply put, these mills are cranking out power and speeds not experienced back in the day ; save for a handful of guys.