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Speed,Combat,Scale,Racing => Combat => Topic started by: john e. holliday on June 26, 2016, 05:11:23 PM

Title: Renegade
Post by: john e. holliday on June 26, 2016, 05:11:23 PM
Flew it for the first time yesterday at my sister's place while visiting.   What a blast.   K&B Greenhead .35 on suction.  Will need to cut control movement down as it was turning too quick for me, even trying to stiff arm it.  Balance is ahead of the spar.  No weight to it hardly.  My brother-in-law seen a little of why I had him hold like he did.  Would have made more flights but, humidity and heat was getting to him and old pasture land with grass clumps and dirt divets does not help balance.
Title: Re: Renegade
Post by: phil c on June 27, 2016, 08:00:22 PM
Nice job on it Doc.  I'd build some of those old planes, but I'm not a purist.  The upright engine doesn't fly very well, so I'd go with a side mount.
Title: Re: Renegade
Post by: doug coursey on June 18, 2022, 11:24:59 AM
Nice job on it Doc.  I'd build some of those old planes, but I'm not a purist.  The upright engine doesn't fly very well, so I'd go with a side mount.

I just got the renegade kit from vintage performance to build.....im  going to do the side mount engine on it and tank in the wing like old school ones i built in the late 50's...
Title: Re: Renegade
Post by: Howard Rush on June 18, 2022, 12:10:44 PM
Did you beat me with that one at Newberry’s?
Title: Re: Renegade
Post by: doug coursey on June 18, 2022, 02:13:36 PM
Did you beat me with that one at Newberry’s?

That wouldnt be me...my last combat plane was a voodoo...
Title: Re: Renegade
Post by: john e. holliday on June 18, 2022, 07:09:10 PM
Won't be a Renegade with side mount.  But to each his own. D>K
Title: Re: Renegade
Post by: doug coursey on June 21, 2022, 08:43:05 AM
That wouldnt be me...my last combat plane was a voodoo...

It will still be a renagade just personalized a little...im also building a nobler im going to personalize also
Title: Re: Renegade
Post by: Howard Rush on June 22, 2022, 06:01:46 PM
That wouldnt be me...my last combat plane was a voodoo...

No, that would have been John.  We were flying combat over a paved parking lot. 
Title: Re: Renegade
Post by: Ron Duly on March 20, 2023, 05:23:31 PM
The first Renegade I built back in the 60's was built just like the kit said.  The second one had a sidewinder engine.  Much better!  The third one was "inspired" by Riley Wooten's Diamond design.  I loped off the round portions of the ribs and made it into a diamond Renegade.  Also pulled the tips in closer to the end ribs.  The result?  A real dog.  That was all pre-Netzeband I'm-sure-it-will-work beginner's "engineering".  The Renegade was a John Barr design, some said based on the Butterfly design from the mid-west somewhere.   
Title: Re: Renegade
Post by: doug coursey on April 05, 2023, 05:35:44 AM
Flew it for the first time yesterday at my sister's place while visiting.   What a blast.   K&B Greenhead .35 on suction.  Will need to cut control movement down as it was turning too quick for me, even trying to stiff arm it.  Balance is ahead of the spar.  No weight to it hardly.  My brother-in-law seen a little of why I had him hold like he did.  Would have made more flights but, humidity and heat was getting to him and old pasture land with grass clumps and dirt divets does not help balance.
how much travel did it have..im building one now and have about 20 degrees of travel
Title: Re: Renegade
Post by: john e. holliday on April 05, 2023, 12:04:23 PM
Do not go more than 20 degrees each way.  I fly mine with a 5 inch Hot rock handle. D>K
Title: Re: Renegade
Post by: doug coursey on April 05, 2023, 03:04:36 PM
Do not go more than 20 degrees each way.  I fly mine with a 5 inch Hot rock handle. D>K

 thats what mine has 20 degrees,i have the same handle for now......
Title: Re: Renegade
Post by: Dennis Leonhardi on April 18, 2023, 08:12:08 PM
Nice looking airplane Doc!

Dennis
Title: Re: Renegade
Post by: Paul Smith on April 23, 2023, 07:58:13 AM
Nice job on it Doc.  I'd build some of those old planes, but I'm not a purist.  The upright engine doesn't fly very well, so I'd go with a side mount.

I had TWO Midwest Hornets with the vertical engine.  I should have learned from Lesson One.  You're one inverted flameout or bad outside loop from disaster.
Title: Re: Renegade
Post by: EddyR on September 09, 2023, 03:15:57 PM
 I don't post much anymore but saw John's Renegade and remember when there were a lot of them around 1960.  I was flying Quicker's at that time. Both had the same problem then landing inverted in grass you would break off the motor mounts. I went to side mount after one season. Preasure feed worked well for me but most people were using bladders.
 Another seldom seen upright motor model was Don Still's thick flying wing model. I built two to test motors as did Super Tigre warranty.
EddyR