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Title: Quicker Plans
Post by: Gordan Delaney on March 10, 2014, 02:32:57 PM
Any one out there has plans to the Quicker. The plans that came with the Cleveland kit? I want to build one to add to my old time Combat planes.

Thanks
Gordy
Title: Re: Quicker Plans
Post by: Mike Keville on March 10, 2014, 05:42:58 PM
Barry Baxter's Plan Service has the Quicker - a Riley Wooten design, though I don't know if the Cleveland plan was of a different design.  You can see a drawing on Baxter's web site.

Title: Re: Quicker Plans
Post by: Mark Scarborough on March 10, 2014, 07:17:47 PM
Gorden, I thought I did, but upon looking its a "Scrapper " kit I have,,
dang,, I tried
Title: Re: Quicker Plans
Post by: Gordan Delaney on March 10, 2014, 07:19:36 PM
Mark,
Can you copy the scrapper plans? Thats on my list of old planes I flew.

Gordy
Title: Re: Quicker Plans
Post by: Gordan Delaney on March 10, 2014, 11:01:44 PM
Mike,
I already did. The plans they have don`t have wing tips. Plus the cord looks wider than I remember. But, that was about 54 years ago. Z@@ZZZ ''

Gordy
Title: Re: Quicker Plans
Post by: Gordan Delaney on March 27, 2014, 05:29:17 PM
Mark,
Can you copy the scrapper plans? Thats on my list of old planes I flew.

Gordy
 
Mark,
Did you want me send you some money to help with the shipping first or after?

Gordy
Title: Re: Quicker Plans
Post by: bob whitney on March 28, 2014, 09:04:12 AM
Gorden, have u found the Quicker plans yet, if not email me
Title: Re: Quicker Plans
Post by: john e. holliday on March 29, 2014, 08:56:40 AM
In reality Gordon, have you contacted Riley about the Quicker.   I used to have the magazine with the small plan in it and often thought of building one.   But, the side winder engine design came into vogue.
Title: Re: Quicker Plans
Post by: bob whitney on March 29, 2014, 10:44:52 AM
just read your last post.  the Quicker had 1/8 or 3/16 flat wingtips  just added on to the last ribs  i have a cut up set of plans u are welcome to
Title: Re: Quicker Plans
Post by: riley wooten on March 29, 2014, 05:15:24 PM
Mike,
I already did. The plans they have don`t have wing tips. Plus the cord looks wider than I remember. But, that was about 54 years ago. Z@@ZZZ ''

Gordy

Gordy, there were two size Quickers originally in 1955.   9" cord for green head Torp and a 8" cord for Fox stunt since it had less power and was lighter.  They both had soft balsa tips glued to tip rib.  The 56 Nats winner and MAN plan was the best IMHO.  When I started running small case Johnsons I came up with the 8-5/8" cord model which California Models kitted.  They wanted tips so it had tips.  The kit plans were 1/2 size.  I don't think I have any full size  "KIT" plans........  I lost most of my old plans in the Lone Star fire.
RW
Title: Re: Quicker Plans
Post by: Paul Smith on March 30, 2014, 07:54:12 AM
The Quicker was a popular design in the late 50's in my area.  The top setup was a Johnson Combat Special and a pen bladder in plastic can behind the engine.  The only major downside was breakage of the engine mounts in every inverted crash and some inverted landings.

The VooDoo used essentially the same wing with a side mounted engine and much-simpler stabililator.  In the Detroit area, where combat was huge, the Quicker was instantly replaced by the VooDoo, including, I believe, some damaged Quickers converted to VooDoos.

All the old uprights on the late 50's, T-Square, Renegade, Hornet, and Quicker went the way of progress when we saw the light of the sidewinder engine mount.
Title: Re: Quicker Plans
Post by: Gordan Delaney on March 30, 2014, 10:17:54 AM
Thanks everyone. I had several VooDoo`s also. But I`m building old planes that I flew way back when. At the 59 nats I talked to Riley and on the bench he had a Quicker with a side mounted engine. Riley thanks for the info. I wanted to built the kitted Quicker.

Gordy
Title: Re: Quicker Plans
Post by: riley wooten on March 30, 2014, 05:26:49 PM
Just for info and maybe it is a coincidence, but many of Riley Wootens combat plans are available on Ebay this week. Makes one wonder. D>K

Ty, how do I go about finding these plans?  I am not an Ebay person.....
RW
Title: Re: Quicker Plans
Post by: Andrew Hathaway on March 30, 2014, 07:56:00 PM
Ty, how do I go about finding these plans?  I am not an Ebay person.....
RW

Go to Ebay.com and type "Combat Plans Riley Wooten" in the search box.
Title: Re: Quicker Plans
Post by: bobsrc on April 10, 2014, 03:28:21 PM
Cleaveland kitted Riley's Super Whatzit - Quicker wing with stab and elevator mounted above the trailing edge on stub rudders.  Another outfit kitted the Quicker but I can remember the name right now.
Bob
Title: Re: Quicker Plans
Post by: Andrew Hathaway on April 10, 2014, 03:50:20 PM
Another outfit kitted the Quicker but I can remember the name right now.
Bob

California Model Co.  There's an original kit on Ebay this week.  Item number: 171296032948.
Title: Re: Quicker Plans
Post by: Bob Mears on May 20, 2014, 01:33:34 PM
(http://static.rcgroups.net/forums/attachments/3/8/7/9/5/6/a5529203-150-Quicker.jpg)
Title: Re: Quicker Plans
Post by: Bob Mears on May 20, 2014, 01:38:16 PM
Any one out there has plans to the Quicker. The plans that came with the Cleveland kit? I want to build one to add to my old time Combat planes.

Thanks
Gordy

Dont know if you've seen my collection of combat planes Gordy. Have a look   http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?u=387956
Title: Re: Quicker Plans
Post by: Gordan Delaney on May 24, 2014, 08:38:03 AM
Thanks Bob,
I like it.
Gordy
Title: Re: Quicker Plans
Post by: Dennis Adamisin on May 25, 2014, 05:28:21 AM
Dont know if you've seen my collection of combat planes Gordy. Have a look   http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?u=387956

WOW! that is really cool.  THANK YOU for sharing.

Noticed you had a couple electric combat birds - can you list your set-up?  Thanks in advance...

edit: just found your other post with the set-up shown... never mind!
Title: Re: Quicker Plans
Post by: dennis lipsett on May 25, 2014, 05:56:23 AM
Everyone's collection needs something a little less serious in it. Paul Del Gattos Super Whipsaw. I never saw one of these ever flown in a match anywhere. Built simply for nostalgia. Pat king made the kit for himself and I just had to have one also.
Title: Re: Quicker Plans
Post by: Bob Heywood on May 28, 2014, 01:28:23 PM
I saw Super Whipsaw go head-to-head with a VooDoo at a contest near Xenia, Ohio, circa 1961-62. The Whipsaw won the match on a kill. The VooDoo ran out of fuel and was landing. The Whipsaw got the kill and flew under the VooDoo through a space with just barely enough room to clear the ground and not collide with the VooDoo. Sometimes it pays to be lucky.
Title: Re: Quicker Plans
Post by: dennis lipsett on May 28, 2014, 07:33:31 PM
I saw Super Whipsaw go head-to-head with a VooDoo at a contest near Xenia, Ohio, circa 1961-62. The Whipsaw won the match on a kill. The VooDoo ran out of fuel and was landing. The Whipsaw got the kill and flew under the VooDoo through a space with just barely enough room to clear the ground and not collide with the VooDoo. Sometimes it pays to be lucky.

Simply amazing, I would have expected it to be the improved Whipsaw, the Stinger. The whipsaw was prone to wing flex and twist and PDG redesigned the model.
Title: Re: Quicker Plans
Post by: Bob Heywood on May 31, 2014, 07:10:09 PM
Simply amazing, I would have expected it to be the improved Whipsaw, the Stinger. The whipsaw was prone to wing flex and twist and PDG redesigned the model.

It was just a kit built Ambroid Super Whipsaw. At that age we were fearless, didn't know stuff like that wasn't supposed to work, pretty much lived for the moment, and had a ball...!
Title: Re: Quicker Plans
Post by: Mike Keville on May 31, 2014, 09:00:48 PM
. . . At that age we were fearless, didn't know stuff like that wasn't supposed to work . . .
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LOL...got that right.  Sometime in the very early 1960s in Northern Illinois I won a Combat match with a Sterling T-Square, of all things.  (In the next Round I quickly had my butt handed to me.)  n1

Title: Re: Quicker Plans
Post by: Bob Mears on June 04, 2014, 09:05:53 AM
Here's your T Square