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Speed,Combat,Scale,Racing => Combat => Topic started by: Marvin Denny on October 25, 2006, 07:22:15 PM

Title: Guess what I got
Post by: Marvin Denny on October 25, 2006, 07:22:15 PM
  Today I became the PROUD OWNER of the original set of plans for the Bigiron along with a photograph of the original logo and a note from Veco concerning the kitting of it.  They are full size and the pistol is different than what came out on the kit.
  They are on some sort of parchment paper and it is quite brittle, so I am considering having them laminated. What do you guys think?


  Bigiron
Title: Re: Guess what I got
Post by: L0U CRANE on November 01, 2006, 01:43:03 PM
BigIron,

If you have a decent UPS Store around Wichita, try them for a nice 100% (and accurate 100% it is around here!) copy or several, before you laminate the plans. Out here that's $2 per.

Laminating may degrade the copy suitability. Getting the UPS Store copies gives you a master for the hordes of people who will pester you for further copies, a working copy, a copy to chop up for templates, and some more paper to crowd your plans storage barn.
Title: Re: Guess what I got
Post by: Marvin Denny on November 01, 2006, 05:28:05 PM
  Thanks Lou.  I am going to have to iron them somehow to get them flat enough to go through the copier, that is for sure.  I do have a UPS store handy.  Carl Berryman gave these to me himself .  I am very proud to call Carl a friend.

  Marvin Denny  aka  Bigiron
Title: Re: Guess what I got
Post by: minnesotamodeler on November 02, 2006, 01:36:40 AM
That "parchment" is probably vellum.  Test your iron on a corner first, it may be adverse to heat.

--Ray (an old draftsman).
Title: Re: Guess what I got
Post by: James Lee on November 02, 2006, 03:02:38 PM
Marvin
This 'Horde' of one would love to have a copy of those plans!!  ;D  I remember seeing you fly those years ago at the Wichita contests out east of town!!
Later
Jim
Title: Re: Guess what I got
Post by: W.D. Roland on November 03, 2006, 09:45:04 AM
I would also like a set for colection!

tell Carl high from those in alexandria/pineville louisiana!

any twister or supertwister(one other later one?)

David
Title: Re: Guess what I got
Post by: Richard Grogan on November 03, 2006, 02:21:31 PM
I would also like a set for colection!

tell Carl high from those in alexandria/pineville louisiana!

any twister or supertwister(one other later one?)

David

Hey David,
When you were admitted to Pineville, did they still have the "Combat Flyers Ward"? n~    ~~>     ~>


 **) Richard
Title: Re: Guess what I got
Post by: Marvin Denny on November 03, 2006, 08:44:37 PM
  Ray, I don't believe that it is vellum.  I have never seen vellum like this and I am an engineer also.   It has turned brown and is extreemly brittle and as thin as tissue.
   Jim and David--- eat your hearts out---  (G)  I will try to get the drawing flat enough to get a copy from them and let you know.
Title: Re: Guess what I got
Post by: W.D. Roland on November 05, 2006, 06:58:03 PM
Richard

Be quite!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i escaped years ago

 **)

David
Title: Re: Guess what I got
Post by: W.D. Roland on November 05, 2006, 07:57:42 PM
no i member---Phantasy!  yea-dats it
Title: Re: Guess what I got
Post by: Marvin Denny on November 06, 2006, 09:09:15 PM
  Super Tig--  Barry Baxter has plans for the Phantasy in his plan service.

  Carl designed the Bigiron, the Qklahoma Twister, the Perculator,  Super Twister and the Phantasy.

  Bigiron
Title: Re: Guess what I got
Post by: Gordan Delaney on December 16, 2006, 01:07:13 PM
Marvin,
Put me on the list too. I`ll be glad to send money.
I built four Super Twisters. One I add two rib bays. Made a great plane. It ran 111mph and turn better than the small one`s that I had.

Gordy
Title: Re: Guess what I got
Post by: phil c on December 16, 2006, 07:32:13 PM
nothing beats wing area for turns, as long as your motor can haul it.  That's why I went to 500 square inches when most every body was still running <400.
Title: Re: Guess what I got
Post by: rustler on December 17, 2006, 05:28:39 AM
Oh. The secret is out! Like why clip 4" of your (Aeromodeller) Peacemaker spars, l.e.,  etc. to bring the span to the designed 36" when you can leave them alone and get 40" span!
Title: Re: Guess what I got
Post by: Howard Rush on January 05, 2007, 02:11:06 AM
I'd sure like a copy. 
Title: Re: Guess what I got
Post by: Marvin Denny on January 05, 2007, 10:16:50 AM
  Howard, why would you want a copy???  The bigiron didn't fly as good as your Nemississ--is si-er what ever you called it.
  Send me an E-Mail at <mdenny4@cox.net> and I will see to it as soon as Ican return home.  (appx in two weeks).

   Bigiron   aka Marvin Denny 8)
Title: Re: Guess what I got
Post by: Dennis Leonhardi on January 05, 2007, 11:57:31 AM
Carl is a real gentleman.  I lost to him and his Big Iron in the quarterfinals of the '63 Nats.  Sure brings back memories ...

Dennis
 y1
Title: Re: Guess what I got
Post by: Iskandar Taib on September 18, 2007, 02:55:37 AM
Has anyone ever BUILT a Phantasy? Wonder what it was like to fly in Combat.. Must've been a pain to build, too..

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Title: Re: Guess what I got
Post by: Marvin Denny on September 18, 2007, 03:41:36 PM
  Yes I have built several and they really flew great.  not as hard to build as you might think.  Carl made a fixture to build off of and could build about five per week, working evenings only.  I used temporary jig fixture fron old ceiling celitex panels and could get about three per week. The FIRST vestage of the Phantasy was a Super Twister that I added  four (4) inches to the center section and flew it against Carl and one of his Super Twisters.  While I didn't beat him, he saw the better "turnabiliy" and came out with the  Phantasy.  My "improved Super Twister still had only two booms.
  They flew better with the Needle Bearinged fox Combat Special than the heavier Fox 36XBB or Johnson CS BB. (in my opinion)  I fully intend to build another one some day.
  Barry Baxter has Full sized plans  for it.

  Bigiron
Title: Re: Guess what I got
Post by: Richard Edwards on September 25, 2007, 02:24:18 AM
Marvin,
 I thought you quit flying them thar super fast combat models heck I cant turn as fast as they do anymore I tried it had to stand still and fly eights.  H^^  HB~>

 Richard ex Sooner Circle Burners