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Offline Gordan Delaney

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Att: Phil C or anyone that knows ST-36
« on: January 01, 2021, 02:01:44 AM »
Bought a ST-36 Schneurle Ported. A lot different than the ST-35 G21.It is not a Perry port,but a real schneurle ported engine. I think it must of come out after I quit flying Combat. Nice looking  engine. Do you know anything about this engine or seen one run.
 
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Re: Att: Phil C or anyone that knows ST-36
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2021, 06:56:20 PM »
I got a Supertigre G-34 Schneurle motor.  double ball bearings, it ran OK.  It was choked a bit by a 13mm(?) crank.  It was also kinda heavy, north of 9 oz.  It also was ringed which has never been a good idea in combat, anyway.  Hit the ground and get silt-sized particles in the ring would really screw things up.

I never saw a 35/36 version of the similar G-40 engine.  It would have been a dud at well over 12 oz. as a G-35
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Re: Att: Phil C or anyone that knows ST-36
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2021, 01:50:40 PM »
     Here are two of my ST .36s.  Modified by Henry Nelson a year or few before the Nelson .36 was introduced. Some differences between them, both are aac, one has a "eyebrow" on the exhaust port, one uses a standard plug the other a Nelson plug.  They weigh 8.9 oz. after going on a diet. I think these are the model that had a large S on the case. I've never looked inside.

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Re: Att: Phil C or anyone that knows ST-36
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2021, 12:03:53 AM »
Hi DAN,  That is the same as I was asking about. Have you every run yours and if so how did the run. Fast or maybe just OK?
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Re: Att: Phil C or anyone that knows ST-36
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2021, 03:49:20 AM »
Hi Gordan,  Yes they were fast and would restart when hot. I ran them on 25% nitro but have been told 40% to 50% would make them light up.  They were pigs on fuel four ounces was good for two minutes, but most matches were over by then.  Not up to the power of a Nelson or Fora but good for the time they were made. Mine were modified by Henry, so I don't know how a stock one preformed.

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Re: Att: Phil C or anyone that knows ST-36
« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2021, 10:07:10 AM »
Is it ABC or Iron piston. I would look into the rear bearing to see if it's a plastic cage or other. If it's ABC and has a good fit it would be worth getting good bearings and a mod head.

Dan, what rpm are you running with the Nelson mods?


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Re: Att: Phil C or anyone that knows ST-36
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2021, 12:19:39 PM »
     I have no idea of what RPMs the ST Nelsons turned.  The last time I ran them had to be about 25 years ago.  I used them a few times then bought a Nelson modified Fox Mk 7 (I think) and the Nelson .36 came out before before I ever used the Fox.  My wife bought me 3 Nelson .36s. I ran one of them 5 or 6 times the other 2 are still in the bags.   Moved  from Michigan where there was a lot of combat activity to central Florida where there is none. So Sad.

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Re: Att: Phil C or anyone that knows ST-36
« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2021, 06:15:22 PM »
Hi Gordan,  Yes they were fast and would restart when hot. I ran them on 25% nitro but have been told 40% to 50% would make them light up.  They were pigs on fuel four ounces was good for two minutes, but most matches were over by then.  Not up to the power of a Nelson or Fora but good for the time they were made. Mine were modified by Henry, so I don't know how a stock one preformed.

Hi Gordan,  Yes they were fast and would restart when hot. I ran them on 25% nitro but have been told 40% to 50% would make them light up.  They were pigs on fuel four ounces was good for two minutes, but most matches were over by then.  Not up to the power of a Nelson or Fora but good for the time they were made. Mine were modified by Henry, so I don't know how a stock one preformed.

Hay Dan Hay-  I've sort of quit flying Fast because there is simply NO ONE to fly against, plus they don't hold up very well to hitting the ground.  The last times at the NATS there often was a chance to win simply by getting 2 min. +.  Almost every match I flew  my opponents ran out of fuel somewhere around 1:30 and took well over 30 seconds to get back up.  I used a stock Nelson, 10% + APC 8/5 sport prop(check the blades after every flight.  Throw 'em out after 5 full flights). Henry's motor would pull a plane about 110mph without a motor and pulling 550 squares.

ON the G.21 track. who here ever got ahold of a G.21 with the stunt/baffled iron piston.  They also sold the C35 plain bearing motor with that set up.  Made a very strong engine for an 8oz. stunt motor.
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Re: Att: Phil C or anyone that knows ST-36
« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2021, 05:14:15 AM »
Hi Phil, I have been flying a Nobler with a C35/Gardner P/L.  It is a nice combo but the motor is not an extraordinary fireball. About like a good Fox.  TS


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