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Offline Christian Patrickson

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Copy of Top Fllite Gieseke Nobler plan
« on: July 20, 2025, 06:06:03 PM »
Hi,

Some time ago, I purchased a Top Flite Gieseke Nobler on an Ebay auction. The box is normally blue (or red). Unfortunately, the kit came without the plan. Can please anybody who owns (or have owned) this model and still has the plan, sell me a high quality copy of it??

I would also consider buying another kit (with the corresponding plan), but considering that I live in Santiago, Chile, South America, a good quality copy of the plan would be more reasonable.

Please do let me know.

Rgds.,

Christian  Patrickson

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Re: Copy of Top Fllite Gieseke Nobler plan
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2025, 06:21:30 PM »
   Check this link out for a plan on the Outerzone site. Free download. It may be enough to get you by.

    https://outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=10588
 
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Re: Copy of Top Fllite Gieseke Nobler plan
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2025, 11:41:16 PM »
Outerzone also has a Top Flite Aldrich Nobler plan which could be a useful reference if you do not find the exact plan that you are looking for.

https://outerzone.co.uk/search/results.asp?keyword=nobler
I built a Blue Pants as a kid. Wish I still had it. Might even learn to fly it.

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Re: Copy of Top Fllite Gieseke Nobler plan
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2025, 12:02:09 AM »
yoou want to look up the magazines mentioed here . https://stunthanger.com/smf/nostalgia-30/gieseke-nobler/msg496034/#msg496034 on the A M A site . just for kicks .

They shoulda come up here , somewhere , cant finem . https://library.modelaviation.com/

https://stunthanger.com/smf/open-forum/update-on-bob-gieske's-nobler/msg505880/#msg505880

Replace any 5 ton wood with 1/4 ounce wood . 43 ounce finished & youre in .




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Re: Copy of Top Fllite Gieseke Nobler plan
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2025, 05:07:16 AM »
few pictures

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Re: Copy of Top Fllite Gieseke Nobler plan
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2025, 05:07:50 AM »
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Re: Copy of Top Fllite Gieseke Nobler plan
« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2025, 05:09:51 AM »
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Re: Copy of Top Fllite Gieseke Nobler plan
« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2025, 07:18:59 AM »
Dear Evgeny,

Yes!!! That is exactly what I need.

Sorry for my ignorance, but I do not know if I can reproduce the full size plan and building instructions out of the jpg pictures you posted. Please let me know if it would be possible for you to take 3 high-quality copies of the original plans and building instructions and send them folded (or if possible, rolled) to my Chilean address? If you are willing, please let me know the cost of doing so. I am more than happy to pay for this. I have a Paypal account.

Regarding all the other answers, I give my sincere thanks to you all. As you correctly showed, there are many plans of this model available online. You can even buy them from eBay, but from what I have seen, these plans do not match exactly the Top Flite kit. For that reason, I would prefer a high-quality copy of the original Top Flite Gieseke Nobler plan and building instructions, since I have the complete kit available.

I recently (i.e. yesterday) tried to buy a NIB Gieseke Nobler kit on eBay.... but the shipping cost and custom taxes made it impossible for me to purchase the kit (with plan)


Thanks again to all.

Rgds.,

Christian A. Patrickson








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Re: Copy of Top Fllite Gieseke Nobler plan
« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2025, 07:58:08 AM »
One solution is to print several 8-1/2 x 11 pages on a home printer and tape them together.  A 3' x 4' job at a copy shop is expensive,
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Re: Copy of Top Fllite Gieseke Nobler plan
« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2025, 09:37:35 AM »
Yes, I will consider printing the plans myself, if I cannot get a high-quality copy of the plans. But if someone can send me a copy, I will be very grateful.

Rgds.,

Christian A. Patrickson



One solution is to print several 8-1/2 x 11 pages on a home printer and tape them together.  A 3' x 4' job at a copy shop is expensive,

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Re: Copy of Top Fllite Gieseke Nobler plan
« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2025, 01:08:32 PM »
A local printing shop should be able to print them off the jpegs shown earlier.
I’ve had several plans reproduced this way.
Confirm scale by measuring the spinner and wheel diameters as printed on the plans.

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Re: Copy of Top Fllite Gieseke Nobler plan
« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2025, 01:14:24 PM »
A local printing shop should be able to print them off the jpegs shown earlier.
I’ve had several plans reproduced this way.
Confirm scale by measuring the spinner and wheel diameters as printed on the plans.

OK, thanks for the information.

Rgds.,

Christian A. Patrickson

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Re: Copy of Top Fllite Gieseke Nobler plan
« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2025, 12:19:40 AM »
That HAND DRAWN one , is by the man hiself . Bob. Gieske even .

https://clstunt.ru/index.

php/zal-slavy/328-bob-gieseke-nobler

If you rejoin that , youl get all that , history from the time .

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Re: Copy of Top Fllite Gieseke Nobler plan
« Reply #13 on: July 22, 2025, 12:26:46 AM »
maybe the best one  to follow , at the end of the day .

https://outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=10588

as in , youve got a set of ribs . Might pay to trace em onto more timber , for the next set . or two .
before useing them .

Thisis whative beenlooking FOR .



fourty three ounces . with the OS 30 & muffler & 1/4 ounce tailweight . ( or take the 1 3/4 ounce muffler & tailweight off . Coulr tissue trim . No Paint . )

More on it / He ; here : https://www.apuca.com.ar/Pesce/Articulos_2018/Nobler.html

Just do it straight . good free controls . And glue the nose together well , there . the expression was " you just need enough glue to hold the joint . not the world " remember that .
straight , aligned , light . And it'll be a Humm Dinger .

file:///C:/Users/PublicInternet/Downloads/Scan%20Gieseke%20Nobler%20(3).pdf  ( click on this one too , ) if you copy And Paste it , into google seach . You get another genuine Gieske Nobler plan .
Printing em off onto A3 or A4 , page size , to study .  Any clunker wood , trash . Cept for stiff flaps & spars etc . dont use blotting paper woods , either . Most kit wood should be pretty good , and well seasoned .

And THEN , theres " The STEP " . ! Obviously ,. Bob knew a bit about this thing . So you dont have to use the kit religeously . just Bob .  VD~


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Re: Copy of Top Fllite Gieseke Nobler plan
« Reply #14 on: July 22, 2025, 06:05:39 AM »
Hi,

Some time ago, I purchased a Top Flite Gieseke Nobler on an Ebay auction. The box is normally blue (or red). Unfortunately, the kit came without the plan. Can please anybody who owns (or have owned) this model and still has the plan, sell me a high quality copy of it??

I would also consider buying another kit (with the corresponding plan), but considering that I live in Santiago, Chile, South America, a good quality copy of the plan would be more reasonable.

Please do let me know.

Rgds.,

Christian  Patrickson

Christian, I've been selling plans on eBay for more than 20 years - am now winding it down but have a pdf file created by scanning an original plan (from the blue box) with patterns for the parts, including wing ribs.  I've made a real effort to ensure the size is accurate (many of the plans on Outerzone and elsewhere are a bit off).

I can email you the files if (1) you have someone to print them for you, and (2) we can email large files.  The 2 files total about 42 Mb (high resolution) now: I can compress them later in the week if necessary.  As a last resort I can have a set printed here and mail them, but the cost would be ridiculous.  Please send me your email by private message and let's see what we can do to get you started on the build.

I had the chance to watch Bob fly his version of the Nobler at two different Nats here and might have wondered if the aircraft was on rails.  Impressive!

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Re: Copy of Top Fllite Gieseke Nobler plan
« Reply #15 on: July 22, 2025, 07:25:31 AM »
Hi,

I would like to give my sincere thanks to all who responded to my request. You have been very helpful.

Still, if someone had a NIB Top Flite kit who would be willing to sell to someone located in Santiago, Chile, South America, please let me know. I would like to build this model "the traditional way" with silkspan and dope.

Thanks again to everybody. I very much appreciate it!!

Rgds.,

Christian A. Patrickson

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Re: Copy of Top Fllite Gieseke Nobler plan
« Reply #16 on: July 22, 2025, 10:52:29 AM »
I had the chance to watch Bob fly his version of the Nobler at two different Nats here and might have wondered if the aircraft was on rails.  Impressive!
I had the pleasure of watching him almost daily during his best years.  We flew the same practice circle, and I can confirm that it WAS on invisible rails.  Every once and awhile the pipe smoke wound show one.  Somehow, I could never find the entry point or how he never got caught.  LL~  Seriously, he was something else in his prime.

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