Bill...there's gonna be a helluva line tangle, with everybody flying at the same time. The Judges will be really busy, too.    Frank's alter made me do it!  But I kinda like the concept. I'll bring it up at the Board Meeting.... Steve

Bill, I'm glad to see you make this challenge. We've talked about this for years now, even had several make the same, or very similar proposal, but no one acted on it. It's such a simple and elegant solution, I really hope some one, some club or group, will take it on. I believe in a few years it would be very well established.

Hi Randy,

Yes, you're right. It would be nice to go back to the original concept, but it isn't going to happen with out something else, like this challenge occurring first.

We all hashed this out several years ago, and more than once, but the last opinions expressed on the idea were, to paraphrase a little. "Well, try it out, and if it works, or is accepted, we'll consider the idea."

No one has picked up on the idea yet.

There's no reason why a group cannot have Classic at their contest with a rolling cut off date. All they have to do is spell it out in the contest notice. No one yet....

So at least Bills challenge might make someone try something to get the ball moving.

I agree with you that the fears about cookie cutter designs, or more modern designs pushing out the older classics is not really an issue. I also agree that a lot of good classic designs are out there, later designs as you've mentioned, but since there's no special venue for them to compete in, they're not being built and flown.

Having new ships show up at a classic contest is, and I hope, always should be, something to look forward to each year.

Last year, Gordy and I built a pair of All American Eagles for VSC. I have no qualms about flying mine in PAMPA classes. With a good, modern, power plant, it'll fly well enough for me to look respectable in my class, flying against modern designs. I would expect that it would do just as well against any other designs that might show up at an expanded Classic venue. I believe that many, if not most, other good currently, Classic designs will do about as well, so fear of the older designs being displaced is whooey, IMNSHO.

The challenge, is to get someone to start the ball rolling. If it works, perhaps then, we can have the vote you, and others, including myself, would like to see.

It's just a bit late to have this added to our Sept. contest, but maybe we could get it approved for the Stunt-a-thon, next June. It would probably require getting Paul Walker, Howard Rush, John Leidle, Mike Haverly, Jimmy Johnson, and Randy Powell to show up at a club meeting, to vote for it.      Steve

Hi Steve,

It would be a good thing if you could get them all together. I suggest "Super, or Golden Classic for an event name.

Now, if the fellows running the NW Regionals would come on board,,,,, Sweeet.

Hi All,

My "Challenge" is simply (like John said!) to spur some action in this area.  Waiting on a PAMPA authorized change might take some time, maybe even a LONG time (like never??).  So running the event AS PART OF the Classic event is a "no-brainer" to me, as far as seeing how people REALLY respond.  Tom Dixon has done this for a few years now, but the last time I coud attend a contest down in Marietta, there wasn't a plane from the era enterred that I remember.  They were all still "Classic" rules planes.

And from my pointof view, it is a way to get (especially) more entrants flying inthe "Classic" (present event name) event.  They can build a plane to use in Classic AND PAMPA that is fairly modern, yet with int he proposed event.  Less time to adjust to different planes and more time in front of judges.

A "Tropicaire" would fit right in!  AS well as a Genesis MKIII (46), A Stunt Machine, and on and on...........