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Classic Designs => Classic Planes => Topic started by: BYU on June 01, 2016, 10:08:21 AM
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I am looking to build a Veco Chief. The plan shows an inverted engine option and I am wondering if the inverted engine version is classic legal? If anyone knows the history of this plane I would love to know more.
Thanks
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I seen many Chiefs with inverted engines back in the day. The up right engine set up was supposedly easier starting. Answer is yes. H^^
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Not only classic, but OTS legal.
The Chief in several versions is clearly pre-1952.
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First Veco Chief came out in 1949. D>K
This the Kit label
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I built a VECO CHIEF for a friend of mine in 1962 and enjoyed working with the design very much. A few years ago I got a mint condition DUMAS CHIEF off Ebay and plan to build it soon. The cost was $102.00 plus postage of $8.00 ... total cost...$110. My question is.......is this exactly the same airplane I built in 1962? I believe that it is, the box is the same, the plans look the same and the parts look to same to me. The only difference I can see is the that the name VECO has been replaced on the box and the plans. Any comments appreciated. D>K H^^
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Hi Terrence,
Yes, it should be identical to the one you built in 1962. I have always understood that Dumas bought the tools and dies from Veco and simply kept punching out parts.
BIG Bear
RNMM/AMM
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The Dumas Chief is NOT a replica of the Veco Chief. It spans 54" vs. the Veco's 51"...and does not have the 'pollywog' airfoil. Totally different design.
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This is a lame question "Bob" its obviously not classic legal.
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This is a lame question "Bob" its obviously not classic legal.
Why is it not classic legal. Or did you mean old time? HB~> HB~> HB~> HB~> HB~> HB~>
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Read the rules and the documentation. Like the Original Nobler kit that Brodak has, I flew it in Old Time, Classic and AMA PAMPA stunt events. Only one individual snickered at me for doing this. If I had a decent Chief kit I would do the same with it. If they were profile I could fly a fourth event.
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The polliwog Chief is OTS "Legal" All the others are Classic, Nostalgia, and PA "Legal" with inverted engine or up right engine; none of these are OTS "Legal"! They don't do well in wind but are a hoot to enjoy!
Phil Spillman
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I've got an original pollywog Chief built by the late Harry Freeland. It weighs 35oz and is powered by an OS35 with 10x6 prop.It has a 54"WS. I fly it on 61' lines C/L to C/L. It is a wonderful flyer and can turn on a dime.I never flew it in really windy conditions,but in normal light breezy air it's great....PhillySkip
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This is a lame question "Bob" its obviously not classic legal.
Finally gave in, huh? You couldn't resist joshing "Bob".
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I built a few Chiefs in my youth and then one about 20+ years ago. They all had one common problem. To light to fly well in the wind and underpowered. Most weighted around 40 ounces and were floaters and under powered with a Fox .35. The Fox flew them but not with authority.
I have wondered for a few years if I had approached it wrong with this plane. I may build one quite a bit heavier,maybe around 55 ounces and power it with one of my ST/40-46 motors. The plane is large enough to carry the weight as long as we have the power to pull it.
That would get rid of the floater problem and should handle the wind with the ST motor in it
You might think why bother as there are many other better planes for OT and Classic. Maybe it is a trip back in time as I no longer have any interest in building contest models.
Give me your thoughts on it.
EddyR
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Hello Eddy
My wife has a Veco Chief with a late model Fox 40 in it (the light 40 coffin back model based on the 36 combat). She is still running the motor in but appears to have much more power then the old 35 Stunt and makes a very nice combination. In fact so nice to fly I was thinking of building my own Chief but would like to use an upright Fox 59 stunt as they have so much character and are as light as many 40's. Have heard that the wing is weak so maybe spruce spars or other wing reinforcements?
Gerald
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At Brodak's I shortened my lines to 59' eyelet to eyelet. I used the .255 venturi on my OS35s, 5% Nitro 29% castor. My Pollywog Chief flew beautifully and I won OTS Phase II Intermediate with her. She's a wonderful bird. PhillySkip