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Offline Paul Raley

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UHP Gieseke Nobler
« on: May 01, 2013, 04:38:59 PM »
Hi Folks,
Here is another newly minted Gieseke Nobler.  I just completed my UHP component kit after about 3 months of effort.  Power is Aero Tiger 36.  Weight is just under 47 oz bench trimmed.  Paint scheme is pretty close to  Bob's '74 (or was it '76?) WC plane.  I stripped the SLC, recontoured a bit here and there, built a balsa cowl and detailed cockpit, and recovered with silkspan.  I am hoping for test flights this weekend.  

Thanks to Steve Moon for another great kit!

Paul Raley
« Last Edit: May 01, 2013, 05:48:58 PM by Paul Raley »

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Re: UHP Gieseke Nobler
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2013, 06:32:19 PM »
Thanks for sharing Paul!
AWESOME JOB! y1

Any other mods besides what you previously mentioned??
Did you use the controls it came with??

Keep us posted on the flight reports.
Good luck & "Tight Lines!"  H^^

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Re: UHP Gieseke Nobler
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2013, 06:33:23 PM »
very pretty,, I like
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Re: UHP Gieseke Nobler
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2013, 08:29:33 PM »
I like it. Very nice, very Gieske.
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Re: UHP Gieseke Nobler
« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2013, 10:09:53 PM »
"Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery."

I do hope Bob Gieseke sees this one.  Beautiful job!
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Re: UHP Gieseke Nobler
« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2013, 05:08:52 AM »
Thanks for the compliments! 

There were not many mods to the UHP kit but here is a list of what I recall:

1. Added cutouts in the aft fuselage per the TF kit plan as insurance as I typically build tail heavy.
2. Removed some structure in the vertical tail for the same reason as above.
3. Added access hatches on either side of the elevator horn so that I could add a bit of down elevator if req'd.
4. Installed semi detailed cockpit (with parts left over from a Nobler I built 25 years ago) and replaced canopy.  I tried to remove the kit canopy from the fuselage with careful application of heat and was almost successful... but I had a few wrinkles in the plastic so I used a Brodak Nobler canopy as a replacement, which appeared identical to the UHP supplied one).
5. Built a balsa cowl.  The supplied F/G one was nice, but I am not a big fan of F/G cowls, and plus I wanted a cowl that would allow me to get my fat finger over the venturi for priming.
6. Faired the fuselage into a 1 3/4" Froom spinner and added a cooling hole on top over the engine crankcase per Bob Gieseke.
7. Built L/G fairings and wheels pants per the TF kit plan but wider to accept 3/4 x 2 1/2" foam wheels.  Wheel pants are removable so that I can use some fat 2 1/2" Banner balloon wheels for rough field operations.
8. Stock controls

The plane balanced exactly at the design CG without any ballast required (that does not happen for me that often!)

I have always liked how Noblers felt on the end of the lines so I looking forward to flying this one with the sweet running AT 36.

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Re: UHP Gieseke Nobler
« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2013, 08:19:09 AM »
Paul: That plane looks great. Fantastic finish.

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Re: UHP Gieseke Nobler
« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2014, 05:26:01 PM »
Hi Folks,
Here is another newly minted Gieseke Nobler.  I just completed my UHP component kit after about 3 months of effort.  Power is Aero Tiger 36.  Weight is just under 47 oz bench trimmed.  Paint scheme is pretty close to  Bob's '74 (or was it '76?) WC plane.  I stripped the SLC,

Paul Raley
Hey Paul:  I just got one of these, the SLC has lots of wrinkles.  How did you go about stripping the SLC ?
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Re: UHP Gieseke Nobler
« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2014, 12:11:24 PM »
Why remove the SLC covering?   I good scrubbing with a pad and you can put the silkspan over it and use a lot less dope.  Even poly-span will work over it.
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Re: UHP Gieseke Nobler
« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2014, 12:49:23 PM »
Hey Paul:  I just got one of these, the SLC has lots of wrinkles.  How did you go about stripping the SLC ?

Can't you tighten it up with a heat gun or a  blow dryer?  I have the same model, still in the box.  The covering came tight as a drum.

Give UHP a call and ask for their advice.
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Re: UHP Gieseke Nobler
« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2014, 04:26:40 PM »
Hi Allan,
Yea, mine had a couple wrinkles as well.  I thought I could do a better job fairing in the canopy and a balsa cowl by stripping it down to bare wood.  I was also worried that I might see more wrinkles in the future as this was my past experience with plastic films.  I recovered it with silkspan, dope, and auto clear.  I probably paid a weight penalty as mine is one of the heavier ones at 46-47 oz.  In any case with the AT 36 it flies just great. It really is a pleasure to fly.

 I just peeled the SLC off and used a heat gun if it felt like it was stuck extra well.  I remember it came off pretty easily with just a few balsa chips here and there. 

Good luck!

Paul R.

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Re: UHP Gieseke Nobler
« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2014, 05:19:12 PM »
Why remove the SLC covering?   I good scrubbing with a pad and you can put the silkspan over it and use a lot less dope.  Even poly-span will work over it.
Mine has lots of wrinkles everwhere.  I doubt it looked like that when first applied.  I am concerned that if I heat shrink again to remove the wrinkles, they might reappear down the road.
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Re: UHP Gieseke Nobler
« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2014, 05:43:10 PM »
Hi Paul,

Super looking Gieseke Nobler!  I do hope Bob G. can get to see it sometime!  The finish came out great and the G. Nobler can carry the weight especially with a good running A.T. .36.  Makes me want to build one!  Great job.

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Re: UHP Gieseke Nobler
« Reply #13 on: May 01, 2014, 07:24:35 PM »
very nice have built and flown many noblers over the years including the jr. version with a fox 29 on it had to make the fuselage a bit wider in the front and add a couple ounces to the tail also put removeable landing gear in the wings flys nice very fast currently assembling a gieseke nobler I bought on e bay and am going to put a os 46 on it also got an arf version from tower still working on that one alsohope my gieseke version turns out as nice as yours

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Re: UHP Gieseke Nobler
« Reply #14 on: May 31, 2014, 09:26:08 AM »
I am flying a UHP Gieseke Nobler in Classic at Brodak's this year with a stock OS FP40S power plant. I removed all of the SLC covering and recovered with polyspan and finished with Brodak dope. Comes in at 45 oz. with wheel pants.
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Re: UHP Gieseke Nobler
« Reply #15 on: June 04, 2014, 12:15:03 PM »
Hi David,

Beautiful finish on the G. Nobler!  I'm diggin' the Polish markings!

I wish I could make it to Brodak's!

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Re: UHP Gieseke Nobler
« Reply #16 on: June 04, 2014, 01:56:10 PM »
Thank you Big Bear.
Sorry you cannot make it to Brodak's.
I missed last year due to chemo and radiation treatments.
Everything OK so far this year!

God Bless,
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Re: UHP Gieseke Nobler
« Reply #17 on: June 04, 2014, 03:33:39 PM »
Thank you Big Bear.
Sorry you cannot make it to Brodak's.
I missed last year due to chemo and radiation treatments.
Everything OK so far this year!

God Bless,
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Hi David,

I'm still recovering from the neuropathy from my chemo.......... I hope to get back to everything  soon!

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Re: UHP Gieseke Nobler
« Reply #18 on: June 06, 2014, 11:13:13 PM »
Which would be the best choice for an engine in my UHP G/N; the A/T 36 or a LA46?
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Re: UHP Gieseke Nobler
« Reply #19 on: June 07, 2014, 07:16:16 AM »
A/T .36, The LA .46 is too much power.

I am going to drop a OS .35S into mine due to the power of the OS FP .40.
The .40 is too strong!
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Re: UHP Gieseke Nobler
« Reply #20 on: April 12, 2018, 10:28:29 PM »
Old post.. but.. 40 is too strong?

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Re: UHP Gieseke Nobler
« Reply #21 on: April 13, 2018, 06:05:59 AM »
Beautiful plane,nice work.Best of luck!

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Re: UHP Gieseke Nobler
« Reply #22 on: April 13, 2018, 06:07:16 AM »
David nice job on your Nobler as well! I'm waiting for some nice weather so I can paint my new Shark 45.


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