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two 1957 classics
« on: September 24, 2017, 09:12:25 AM »
  Since there has not been much on here in the Classic post lately here are some things to look and think about.. I took this photo last week at Huntersville field.  One is my very old and much flown Don Ogren Saturn. It was built from Don plane and it is a exact copy of his plane. It was rebuilt and repainted 10 years ago. I always liked that paint job so when I rebuilt my 13 year old JD Falcon this year I did it almost the same. The old finish kept causing problems so I had to keep yellow to a minimum . I last flew the Saturn about six months ago and it was OK but it has a huge number of flight on the airframe. I did two flights on the Falcon and it needs no trimming and the original  Brian Gardner ST/46 ABC motor ran perfect. This is the first ST/46 ABC motor I put together for Brian for testing many years ago. I recently changed all the parts over to a new case as the original parts were running in a damaged case all these years and it had 1000+ flights on it.
 There is very little color dope on either model. Maybe three ounces of color. It is supposed to look like colored tissue and it does. It does not cover over building blemished and the model must be clear of color or primer before doing this very old method of painting. I was doing this method on FF models back in the 1950's.
  Some people use colored ink instead of colored dope.   It looks really good on I/Beam wings
   A interesting thing is the Saturn was flow with many motors but now has a Rustler/40 in it and the Falcon was built around the Rustler/40 but has the ST/46 in it.
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Re: two 1957 classics
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2017, 05:03:20 PM »
Beautiful planes!


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Re: two 1957 classics
« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2017, 10:02:56 PM »
They look great Ed.
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Re: two 1957 classics
« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2017, 06:11:27 PM »
Very nice ships!

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Re: two 1957 classics
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2017, 06:13:39 AM »
Don Jenkins took this before the first flight.
 I have several flights on it now and the Falcon flies great.
It is the most fun I have had in years flying stunt
Ed 
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Re: two 1957 classics
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2017, 10:14:51 AM »
Isn't that what it's all about, HAVING FUN.   Have I said the planes look great. H^^
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Re: two 1957 classics
« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2018, 07:10:06 PM »
Ed,
The ships look great. Could you give some details of the paint method you used.

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« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2018, 08:18:11 AM »
 Dennis     Both of these planes are old refinish.  One is 20 and the other is 13 years old. I wanted to keep them light so I used a method that free flight group has used for many years. Clear is applied to you get the surface sealed but not shinny. Then add color dope or any coloring  to clear and thinner. 70% thinner 20% clear 10 % color. Spray it on until you get the density you want. I wipe it with a rag between coat as it had a light fuzz to it. Do not sand it It will look dull but later clear coats will make it shine. It gives the look of colored paper but it will not fade. Some of the old finish shows through these old planes but everyone seems to like them. I have done new planes this way also and it comes out as a very nice opaque finish. I had a plane done this way at the 1988 Nats and it made the second highest appearance point that year. 
 The proportions are not critical, almost any combination will work. The object is to use very little color and lots of thinner. Both of these planes have less that two ounces of color on them. The Saturn was repainted almost 14 years ago and still looks new. It was a fuel soaked 1000 flight plane before refinishing it.
 This method looks much better than trying to use colored paper on old time and classic models. You can spray the fuselage with a grey primer if you do not want any odd fillers to show through the body. I use many coats of the mixture to get a almost pained took to the body. When held up to the sun you can see through the wing like clear silk.
 Here are three from long ago. They are not colored silk. They were clear silk using the method mentioned above.
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Re: two 1957 classics
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2018, 01:54:40 PM »
  Since there has not been much on here in the Classic post lately here are some things to look and think about.. I took this photo last week at Huntersville field.  One is my very old and much flown Don Ogren Saturn. It was built from Don plane and it is a exact copy of his plane. It was rebuilt and repainted 10 years ago. I always liked that paint job so when I rebuilt my 13 year old JD Falcon this year I did it almost the same. The old finish kept causing problems so I had to keep yellow to a minimum . I last flew the Saturn about six months ago and it was OK but it has a huge number of flight on the airframe. I did two flights on the Falcon and it needs no trimming and the original  Brian Gardner ST/46 ABC motor ran perfect. This is the first ST/46 ABC motor I put together for Brian for testing many years ago. I recently changed all the parts over to a new case as the original parts were running in a damaged case all these years and it had 1000+ flights on it.
 There is very little color dope on either model. Maybe three ounces of color. It is supposed to look like colored tissue and it does. It does not cover over building blemished and the model must be clear of color or primer before doing this very old method of painting. I was doing this method on FF models back in the 1950's.
  Some people use colored ink instead of colored dope.   It looks really good on I/Beam wings
   A interesting thing is the Saturn was flow with many motors but now has a Rustler/40 in it and the Falcon was built around the Rustler/40 but has the ST/46 in it.
Ed

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