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Classic Designs => Classic Planes => Topic started by: John Miller on February 28, 2012, 03:50:56 PM
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Among other things I've been working on, I finished up the re-do of my VSC ride.
Back in 2000, I built a Sheeks Staggerwing Beech and powered it with an OS Wankle engine. It was my plan to fly it at the VSC in 2001. To make a long story short, I blew my transmission on the way there, and didn't make it for several years after that.
I did demo-fly the "Stag", with the Wankle at Nil's contest in Oregon, and I also flew it in sport scale at Whittier narrows a year or so later. Sometime, perhaps 6 years ago, I sold the Wankle.
I felt the balance was pretty good with the heavier Wankle, so I figured the moment arm to balance at the same place with a lighter engine. Hmmm, My short round cowl I built to cover the squat Wankle was way short and I needed to build a new cowl.
Like many such projects, it has set on the "back" burner for way too many years.
A few months ago, Gordy asked me what I was going to take to VSC this year. I was considering a Fierce Arrow 400, as I already had a laser cut short kit for it.
Gordy, the ever watchful mother hen, jumped all over me, citing all the damaged planes hanging on my walls that I "just" hadn't found the time to repair.
So, it was decided that I would finally build a new cowl, and take the Stag to the dance, even if it was 11 years late getting there.
Anyway, Her're a couple of pics, 'hope to see you in Tucson in a few weeks.
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John, it REALLY looks sharp! I think I missed what engine it will have this time. ???
Thanks!
Bill
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Thanks Bill, I forgot to tell what engine I fitted. It's a TT.42. I've heard a lot of good things about them, but never ran one before.
My engine Guru, says they have the same timing as the Magnum ,36 and I've run one of them, and liked it. y1
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Lookin' good, John! Yes, please DO bring it next month.
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That looks fun. I look forward to seeing it in person in a couple of weeks.
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what Randy said,,
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NICE JOB, John!
Am amazed you could get it airborne with a wankel. I had a TT 42 in an RC bird and it ran great.
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Thanks guys for the kind comments. They always look better in pictures don't they.
Dennis, it actually flew pretty good with the Wankel. I flew the entire pattern with it. It was just heavy with the engine over 20 oz's. It was fun to fly, and I figure the new engine will give it a great margin of extra power. #^
The design has 665 sq inches so it's bigger than it looks. The weight with the TT .42 is 58 OZs. It's now almost 10 OZs lighter than with the Wankel. I Should not have to struggle hard to fly the pattern. At least that's my hope. <=
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I hope I can finish mine by Saturday so I can get at least a couple of flights before it heads to VSC.
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THAT is SUPER cool John! First one I've ever seen. Wish I was heading for Tucson. :'(
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John,
Nice looking Beech!
Good candidate for the Sheeks award. I will be there for the last weekend only, arriving Friday, leaving Sunday morning. Unfortnately I cannot fly this year, but the camera will be very active. See you there.
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I'm happy to hear that you plan on being there this year, even if it's spectating only. I ;ool forward to getting together. #^
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Just found out minutes ago that we have to cancel our trip to VSC. Matters beyong my control.
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Hey John, the Staggerwing looks great. When I had mine their, Jack asked what I had for power. Told him it was an OS .40. He stated it was a great move. Original I beleive was Fox .35. Mine is in the care of Elwyn Aud. H^^
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Looks like a candidate for the ubiquitous OS .46LA. ???
BIG Bear
RNMM/AMM
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A four stroke would be really neat in one of these. y1
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I agree, a 4 stroke would make a nice sounding ride. That was one of the neat features I noticed when running the Wankel. It has a unique sound. y1
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I agree, a 4 stroke would make a nice sounding ride. That was one of the neat features I noticed when running the Wankel. It has a unique sound. y1
Hi John,
Maybe you can find a nice Saito .56 Golden Knight!
;D S?P VD~
BIG Bear
RNMM/AMM
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What are the dimensions of this Staggerwing?
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Wayne, its about oh,, say,, that long,, and the wings are about,, yeh wide,, with spacing of about that much,, and it weighs lots less than you think,, LL~
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I sent you an e-mail Wayne
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Wayne, its about oh,, say,, that long,, and the wings are about,, yeh wide,, with spacing of about that much,, and it weighs lots less than you think,, LL~
Sounds perfect for the job! n~
Thanks John, I'll check it out.
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A bit late catching up on this, Jack really designed some great models and I like staggerwings so had to build one, LA46, wide blade 11 x 6 prop. I did cheat a bit and made flaps on both top and bottom wings. recently re covered with Koverall as the light weight tissue was falling apart. A great flier, best suited to the classic pattern but does a reasonable F2B pattern as well.
No photos, just yellow/red trim so easy to see in the air.
Span? about 42 " from memory, weight, not too heavy :)
Cheers
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I tried to get him to put a ST46 in it. But noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Gordy
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I tried to get him to put a ST46 in it. But noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Gordy
That looks way Cool!!!! #^ But you should have listened to Gordy mw~
Mikey
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A great flier, best suited to the classic pattern but does a reasonable F2B pattern as well.
Cheers
What is the major difference between the "classic pattern" and the "F2B pattern.? The pattern flown in classic is the current AMA pattern. My rulebooks show the AMA pattern and the F2B pattern to be essentially the same. The square maneuver descriptions and the landing descriptions are only slightly different.
The Old Time Pattern from 1952 is completely different.
Keith
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Mikey Pratt, where you been?
Ward-O
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I guess John didn`t tell everyone,but a couple months after VSC someone came in his trailer home and stole the Stagger wing off the wall. What is it with some people fills the world owes it to them. Grrrrrrrrrrrrr ??? n1 n1 '' ''
Gordy
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Hopefully who ever did that needs what ever they deserve. If it hasn't been destroyed, maybe it will show up somewhere. Elwyn Aud has my Staggerwing I flew at VSC years ago.
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I guess John didn`t tell everyone,but a couple months after VSC someone came in his trailer home and stole the Stagger wing off the wall. What is it with some people fills the world owes it to them. Grrrrrrrrrrrrr ??? n1 n1 '' ''
Gordy
No s---?! WTF?!
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Sorry about t he delay gents, the classic pattern I referred to is the MAAA (Model aircraft Australia Association) pattern, very different to any other I have flown over the last 50 or so years. (check out the MAAA website (https://www.maaa.asn.au/rules)
The Staggerwing is still flying and I am considering a full scale version for an OS Wankel, retracts, flaps & cockpit, electronic handle.
Jack certainly designed some great models, if you like that type of model check out Geoff Pentland's Australian designs.
cheers