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Title: Scored Some Fun Kits
Post by: Chuck_Smith on December 27, 2015, 06:33:19 AM
Couple of S1A Ringmasters and 2 Skylarks.


I'll start one of the Skylarks shortly, put it on a weight reduction regime. I've seen a couple that flew nice back in the day.

Question, if I change the nose to more modern construction but keep the original lines am I still legal?

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Title: Re: Scored Some Fun Kits
Post by: Chuck_Smith on December 28, 2015, 02:26:23 PM
Good point Ty, thanks.

I think an integral part of the look of the Skylark was the needle spinner, shaft extension and "jet intake" cowl. That, along with the canopy moved forward giving it a "Jet Age" appearance.

I'm seriously thinking about a silk finish too. That keeps the period-correct vibe and honestly, it's easier than silkspan because I like to let a little of the fabric grain show through.

You can still make them pretty that way IMHO.
Title: Re: Scored Some Fun Kits
Post by: Dave_Trible on December 29, 2015, 12:22:59 PM
I'm building one of my 3 ( yes I'm embarrassed) Skylark kits.  I'm not using any of the sheet wood in the kit but replacing it with good contest lumber.  I also stretched the span to the actual original 56" by spacing the ribs out.  Will have a McCoy series 21 .40 in the nose- no muffler.  Ed Southwick liked the Red Head .40 in his.  These airplanes just look great and can fly very well.  A local legend here in the 60s, Ray Reinschmitt had one that flew like a dream and will always remain my favorite and a great memory as a kid.  The Fox in his and silk covering.  I still remember the zing, zing sound of the silk as he wiped the oil off.  The next one I'll paint just like his.  The third one kit is missing some hardware so I'm think I'll make a twin out of that with a couple Veco .19s.  Not contest legal but fun.
I just scored a 1963 set of plans to Eddie Elastic's Impala......
Title: Re: Scored Some Fun Kits
Post by: Chuck_Smith on December 31, 2015, 05:36:22 AM
I'm thinking an LA .40, if I end up needing it I can swap an LA .46 into it.  IIRC LA's have a 1/4-28 on the shaft. Sound right?
Title: Re: Scored Some Fun Kits
Post by: Dave_Trible on December 31, 2015, 07:18:31 AM
Yes 1/4-28 I believe.

Dave
Title: Re: Scored Some Fun Kits
Post by: Steve Helmick on January 14, 2016, 11:54:10 PM
I'm thinking an LA .40, if I end up needing it I can swap an LA .46 into it.  IIRC LA's have a 1/4-28 on the shaft. Sound right?


Absolutely, without any doubt, 1/4-28 thread. I would suggest avoiding a shaft extension, if that's what brings up the question. Even though the extension helps with the CG, NOT using one allows a bigger fuel tank, which is also relevant. You might get by with 4.5 oz, but 5 oz is a safer bet. Having flown at -1,200 Density Altitude (IIRC ~550' actual ASL), it's amazing the problems it causes both IC and 'lectric.   :o Steve
Title: Re: Scored Some Fun Kits
Post by: john e. holliday on January 15, 2016, 10:32:19 AM
For some reason my LS 46's give me better milage than the LA 40's.   Of course where I'm at in Kansas is supposed about 900 foot above sea level.
Title: Re: Scored Some Fun Kits
Post by: Bob Wiegand on December 10, 2016, 04:35:20 PM
Hey chuck,

I see this is an older thread but here goes.

Would you consider parting with a set of those plans for the Skylark?  It was my first real stunt plane and as I remember I had a McCoy .35 in mine.  At that time I was just learning to stunt and I thought the plane was flying way better than I was.  I have very fond memories of that design.

Anyway, I would love to build another one, so If you could consider parting with a set, I would be happy to take them off your hands.

Bob
Title: Re: Scored Some Fun Kits
Post by: pmackenzie on December 10, 2016, 05:13:40 PM
You can download the Skylark plans here:
http://www.outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=6298
Title: Re: Scored Some Fun Kits
Post by: Bob Wiegand on December 11, 2016, 02:53:40 AM
Thanks!  But I was hoping for an original (Sterling) set. :)
Title: Re: Scored Some Fun Kits
Post by: Dan McEntee on December 11, 2016, 07:12:58 AM
      If the Sterling Skylark was typical of other Sterling kits, the plans won't have all the parts laid out on them, and you probably couldn't build one from them. The Outrzone plan looks like the magazine plan. Don't know if I have a Sterling Skylark kit plan to check. Sterling shrunk the model a bit in order to get it into one of their stock, cheap paste board boxes. That was something hat upset Mr. Southwick to his final days. A kit built airplane will fly well, as exhibited by Paul Walker pounding everyone at VSC with a complete vintage set up on one. Sterling kit built airplane with McCoy Redhead Head .40, Top Flite or Rev-Up 10-6 prop, and Hot Rock handle. I think I have that all correct. Is it any wonder he's my hero!
   Type at you later,
   Dan McEntee
Title: Re: Scored Some Fun Kits
Post by: Bob Wiegand on December 11, 2016, 06:21:40 PM
Thanks Dan

I guess memory is playing tricks again.  I can certainly use the outerzone plans.  They will meet my needs.

Thanks everyone!
Title: Re: Scored Some Fun Kits
Post by: Chuck_Smith on December 25, 2016, 06:02:49 AM
You are welcome to a set of plans but as mentioned, you can't build an airplane from one. There's not even a top view of the fuselage!

Chuck
Title: Re: Scored Some Fun Kits
Post by: Bob Wiegand on December 25, 2016, 08:46:32 AM
Thanks Chuck.  I'll send a PM after the holidays.   y1

Bob
Title: Re: Scored Some Fun Kits
Post by: wwwarbird on December 25, 2016, 11:58:16 AM
I'm building one of my 3 ( yes I'm embarrassed) Skylark kits.  I'm not using any of the sheet wood in the kit but replacing it with good contest lumber.  I also stretched the span to the actual original 56" by spacing the ribs out.  Will have a McCoy series 21 .40 in the nose- no muffler.  Ed Southwick liked the Red Head .40 in his.  These airplanes just look great and can fly very well.  A local legend here in the 60s, Ray Reinschmitt had one that flew like a dream and will always remain my favorite and a great memory as a kid.  The Fox in his and silk covering.  I still remember the zing, zing sound of the silk as he wiped the oil off.  The next one I'll paint just like his.  The third one kit is missing some hardware so I'm think I'll make a twin out of that with a couple Veco .19s.  Not contest legal but fun.
I just scored a 1963 set of plans to Eddie Elastic's Impala......

 Dave,

 Do we get to see a thread on your build?  #^