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Classic Designs => Classic Planes => Topic started by: proparc on November 30, 2012, 02:11:13 PM
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If any of you kind gents would posts picture of Noblers and Skylarks, I would sincerely appreciate it.
Thanks
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Milton,
A search will probably get you a lot of pictures, but here's my '52 Nobler.
Paul
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Milton,
A search will probably get you a lot of pictures, but here's my '52 Nobler.
Paul
Paul, that is one seriously good looking Nobler. H^^
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Here is one of mine from many years ago. That is monocote #^
Ed
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Milton.
Here are a few shots from my library.,.,..enjoy. Hope this helps.
Regards.
Dave.
ama 41041
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If any of you kind gents would posts picture of Noblers and Skylarks, I would sincerely appreciate it.
Thanks
Wish I had a better pictures. The Skylark was my first "full house" stunter (Sterling kit) from 1964. Loved that plane...
The Nobler is from about '68, near as I can remember.
CurtD
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Welcome aboard Curt. Like the peace cymbal on Nobler wing. :!
Ed
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Here are couple of photos of my first "Simonized" Nobler, circa 1966. Bill Simons was my mentor back then and he'd built about a dozen Noblers and had come up with a number of subtle modifications to make them much easier to build and (at least to me...) look better as well. Note the different shaped (rounder) tips the soild sheet stab and elev, the sheeted fin, and the wheel pants.
It was a great flying ship and with it I scored many Senior class wins on the East Coast. Interesting note: Harold "Red" Reinhardt crashed this ship. A few years later I crashed his BSA Victor 441 motorcycle. He ran up to me at the crash site laughing. I asked why he was laughing and why he wasn't mad. He said, "Now we're even!"
Memories...
Bob Hunt
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I always got the feeling that the Skylark was treated as the poor second cousin to the Nobler. I sorta think that the Skylark was simply ahead of its time, with its very thick wing,2/3's flaps etc. Also, the wood in those Sterling kits could have been used for gym flooring. Didn't help things any.
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Here are couple of photos of my first "Simonized" Nobler, circa 1966. Bill Simons was my mentor back then and he'd built about a dozen Noblers and had come up with a number of subtle modifications to make them much easier to build and (at least to me...) look better as well. Note the different shaped (rounder) tips the soild sheet stab and elev, the sheeted fin, and the wheel pants.
It was a great flying ship and with it I scored many Senior class wins on the East Coast. Interesting note: Harold "Red" Reinhardt crashed this ship. A few years later I crashed his BSA Victor 441 motorcycle. He ran up to me at the crash site laughing. I asked why he was laughing and why he wasn't mad. He said, "Now we're even!"
Memories...
Bob Hunt
Now for better details, this great looking plane is another NOS 30 design. Also we do change thru the years, look at that head of hair. LL~ LL~ LL~
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Now for better details, this great looking plane is another NOS 30 design. Also we do change thru the years, look at that head of hair. LL~ LL~ LL~
1966 makes it classic legal.
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Now for better details, this great looking plane is another NOS 30 design. Also we do change thru the years, look at that head of hair. LL~ LL~ LL~
Hi Doc:
Well, there are not too many additional details on this one. It has a 1/4-inch sheet stab and elevator, solid wing tips that were carved and then hollowed, custom wheel pants that I carved and hollowed. The fuse sides were not the ones from the kit. I made a new set with no holes in the sides as the stock kit Nobler had. The top and bottom blocks were carved and hollowed balsa, although, if I did another one (and I've long considered it...) I'd mold them.
If there is enough interest, I'll draw the mods up on a set of pencils that I could make available. The dimensions of the plane were pretty much stock Nobler; it was just dressed up a bit.
Later - Bob
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. . . if I did another one (and I've long considered it...) I'd mold them . . .
Later - Bob
Please consider it, Bob. We'd love to see it!
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I purchased thisl old plane at a garage sale. I think it may be a Skylark. Not sure.
--Stephen
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Yep...It's from an old Skylark kit....however the rudder looks a tad "different?"
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Donaldo,
I don't see that offset. These ships have built up airfoiled rudders set straight, from Sterling. I built mine from Ed's plans, sheet rudder.
Chris...
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Here's an oldie. Big Art, back when he was still middle Art, two-tone blue Nobler - by the date this has to be AFTER the bellcrank repair. He went to a contest and during pull test bent the Perfect bellcrank. He opened up the top & bottom and removed the crank, replacing it with a Veco that was somewhat thicker and stouter. Starting that winter the Adamisin stunters got 1/16 STEEL cranks because failing the crank was ABSOLUTELY preventable, and saving weight there was akin to fool's gold...
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Donaldo,
I don't see that offset. These ships have built up airfoiled rudders set straight, from Sterling. I built mine from Ed's plans, sheet rudder.
Chris...
Humm?Chris...You are right.
Guess I am losin' it...I thought I saw somewhere in a previous post that someone mentioned that they were having a problem with their Skylark....and after looking at that Skylark(which also happened to be a similar maroon finish.....it appeared--on that photo-- to have waaay too much offset..but on this photo I too don't see much offset...(However years ago on my old Skylark...I had only an airfoiled rudder with NO OFFSET which flew awesome squares n hard corners.
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Nice treatment of G. Nobler.
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Here is Japan's Masaru Hiki with his Gieseke Nobler at a VSC several years ago. (Photo courtesy of the Cholla Choppers website, Robin Sizemore, Administrator.)
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Nice treatment of G. Nobler.
...except for those wide hinge gaps! n~
Seriously, beautiful plane, but I'll bet it will fly better if those gaps were to be sealed.
Bob Hunt
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...except for those wide hinge gaps! n~
Seriously, beautiful plane, but I'll bet it will fly better if those gaps were to be sealed.
Bob Hunt
That's the first thing I noticed. That's like the Austin Powers movie with the guy with the big wart on his face. Beautiful plane, but those hinge gaps. ???
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now thats an odd looking Nobler to be sure,, kinda looks like the "Nobler" I have hanging on my ceiling at home
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now thats an odd looking Nobler to be sure,, kinda looks like the "Nobler" I have hanging on my ceiling at home
Hi Mark:
Happy New Year.
If that is indeed your Nobler... put some hinge sealing tape on it... <=
Bob Hunt
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Hi Mark:
Happy New Year.
If that is indeed your Nobler... put some hinge sealing tape on it... <=
Bob Hunt
Bob, Happy New year to you as well,,
My post was a response to Shultzie shamelessly posting a picture of his Avenger,, ( well actually Randy Powells Avenger) on a thread about Noblers,,
My gaps are all taped,, its part of my preflight bench trim process,, I always tape my gaps,, well excepting the gap under my nose,, that one still gets me in trouble,,
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Hi Mark:
Happy New Year.
If that is indeed your Nobler... put some hinge sealing tape on it... <=
Bob Hunt
That Nobler now belongs to Paul Gebault, but it wasn't built by him. I took the pictures at one of our contests back in the late 70s or early 80s. I thought it flew extremely well at the contest.
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That Nobler now belongs to Paul Gebault, but it wasn't built by him. I took the pictures at one of our contests back in the late 70s or early 80s. I thought it flew extremely well at the contest.
It would fly better with the hinge line sealed... y1
Bob Hunt
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I really like Paul's (reply #1).
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I agree with Howard. Paul Wood's Nobler is very tastefully done. No excessive ink lines, no black rivets heads, just simple and beautiful. (BTW, I have never seen a full size airplane with every rivet head painted black.)
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Here is my Green Box, my first attempt at paint mask. My first plane was a Nobler and I still love them today, on my third.
Russ
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Skylark from Sterling kit 1966.
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Skylark from Sterling kit 1966.
Delta Park Portland, Oregon.
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Here is my 51 Nobler. It was a great flyer. Sniff!
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Here's some older pictures of my "Skylark". I like the way it flies more than all the "Noblers" I've built and flown.
This one was built from a Ken Smith kit (former VSC PitBoss Supreme). The picture of Ed Southwick holding his "Skylark" came off the kit box. I corresponded with Bill Byles as I built it, he was very helpful. dg
Well, the plan wasn't for two static pictures, and I don't seem able to get ride of one of them, sorry 'bout that. I like the inflight photo showing the flight controls deflected.....
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Well, the plan wasn't for two static pictures, and I don't seem able to get ride of one of them, sorry 'bout that. I like the inflight photo showing the flight controls deflected.....
The way you have your flaps is the way I would make mine.
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I will let everyone in on something. That model that Bob is holding from the WC years is Still sitting on his work bench. I haven't seen it moved in over 20 years. Everything on it is still intact, just hasn't moved. He told me that wing was in several ships and "it practically flew by itself all I had to do was guide it." I will see if I can take a few pics and post them. I don't think I will pick it up.
Mike Scott :)
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Mike if you do take some pictures take some side views of the bottom. Is the bottom flat or does it have the notch in it like the kit. Measure the wingspan. He said in a article he had a shorter wing that he liked and used it in several planes, everyone on here would love to see the plane. #^ #^
Ed
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Here is a pair of Noblers, a TF ARF with a Randy Smith Fox .35 and a TF Gieseke with an OS Max .35S. Both fly great!