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Offline Mark Scarborough

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My new Classic victim for the year
« on: April 28, 2008, 09:55:39 AM »
Thought I would post a few picts of my new Oriental. I got it all finished up this week and took it out to get the cobwebs off today. perfect day! 70 to 75 degrees,(quite a break from the 40 degree weather we have been having.) slight breeze, perfect day for maiden voyages. To make a long story short, once I got the engine run sorted out, she flew pretty much dead on . I need to play with the rudder a touch, maybe get finicky with the leadout position but all in all, I was flying the pattern on the second flight. Im EXCITED, it flies really well. some of the things I have done to make it different, wing mounted gear instead of fuse mount, LA 46 for power,, 12.2 x 3.6 wood prop with the shape of the blades replicating the APC planform. I moved the wing forward 1 1/8" from the plan position to balance the heavier engine. It worked perfectly thanks Pat!!! It balances in flight very very happy. I am using 63 foot .018 lines and getting right around 5.0 sec laps. shes a sweety to fly, good tension, honest turn, and plenty of it. Oh I guess I mislead, I did adjust my handle bias to adjust the insides and outsides.
It weighs right around 45 oz, wings and tail are covered with Ultracote, the red swishs on the wings and tail  are Monokote. The fuse is epoxy base with catayzed primer. Then base clear Urethane.
The pilot dude was a holdover from the German experimental ranks of test pilots, only guy brave enough to ride in my planes lol,,,,
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Re: My new Classic victim for the year
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2008, 11:13:14 AM »
The Oriental is very Ornamental.   ;D

Glad it's going well for you. I need to slap myself on the wrist and just go with a simple paint scheme on the new classic plane. I keep thinking of all kinds of stuff I can do with it and it will eat up time...
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Re: My new Classic victim for the year
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2008, 05:57:46 PM »
Mark:
The new Oriental looks GREAT!   H^^  CLP** HH%% BW@

I like the mods you did too.  Definitely will benefit from changing the moments.  GREAT job!
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Re: My new Classic victim for the year
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2008, 08:31:41 AM »
That is one good looking "Oriental".  Glad to here it is flying well for you.  I also think moving the wing forward helps the looks also.  Have fun,  DOC Holliday
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Re: My new Classic victim for the year
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2008, 12:31:48 PM »
Hi Mark,

That really looks nice!

Of course, since you are going to use this one for Classic, you DID[/i] *verify* all those modifications as being Classic Legal, right??

Wait until next year when you see my *Double Duty* plane.   It will be a Charles Parrott P-47, complete with PA .61 and pipe.  Built of course with Billy's Geo Bolt wing... oopppssss, maybe I shouldn't have admitted that part?

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Re: My new Classic victim for the year
« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2008, 12:43:50 PM »
Bill, Bill Bill,,
of course I verified them,, I have evidence for all the mods that substatiate them as classic legit including the rubber stamp of approval from Pat and Dee both.
It does fly much better than my old recently departed Oriental.
hey and I didnt change the wing either,, its still original, though its tempting to just use a wide pen when tracing ribs isnt it  LL~ S?P n1 n1
Honestly, I have a copy of the magazine it came out in which shows the wing mounted gear, the thicker stab and elevator and rudder. Somewhere in one of Al Rabes articles he speaks of using an Oriental for research on his rudder setup. And Dees plans have in writing on them to move the wing to accomplish balance.
of course as we all know,, you "*can*" fly anything in classic just sacrificing the accuracy authentic,, (crap whats the stupid word) points
I hope this one will allow me to fly it for both PA and Classic, In the past I have carried at least three planes to a contest,, one for each event, and a backup (hey Im only an intermediate)
Thanks for the positive comments and keeping it fun!
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Re: My new Classic victim for the year
« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2008, 03:57:12 PM »
Mark,

The word is fidelity.

Always tricky. My Shoestring is built with modifications endorsed by Bob Hunt (Skylark wing and such). I feel like this one is closer to original that the first one I built that was faithful to the Flying Models plans (despite the slight mod of moving the canopy line rearward to look more like the real plane)
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Re: My new Classic victim for the year
« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2008, 04:16:01 PM »
yeah yeah thats it,, thanks Randy.
sad part is I was just talking about it with Mike the other day and didnt even hesitate I knew it off the top of my head. today I couldnt remember it for nothing!
I think I need to sniff some more paint fumes,, or maybe its balsa withdrawl. I plan on fixing that tonight, Jessica is going to do some more work on her new plane,, sanding time
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Re: My new Classic victim for the year
« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2008, 06:03:23 PM »
Boy I hope this pilot is covered by that little lizard fron Gieco. Does this guy know how dangerous this is. LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~ All kidding aside plane looks good as usual and I am sure you will like the power. Nice job. HB~> j1 j1 %^

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Re: My new Classic victim for the year
« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2008, 07:22:24 AM »
Hi Mark,

I hope Dirty Dan shows up with his Impact one day, in Classic, like he has threatened to for a long time! LL~ LL~ LL~

The Oriental will do great as a Double Duty plane.

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Re: My new Classic victim for the year
« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2008, 09:36:15 AM »
lol,, yeah Actually have spoken to several CD for contest around here, if my Oreintal doesnt survive, I will hve my electric Cardinal for backup,, hehe take that
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Re: My new Classic victim for the year
« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2008, 10:07:54 AM »
Leo,

>>Does this guy know how dangerous this is<<

Why do you think I'm using a Ninja Turtle as a pilot? He was the only guy I could talk into it.
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Re: My new Classic victim for the year
« Reply #12 on: April 30, 2008, 10:29:34 AM »
Randy,, yeah TMNT are pretty tough unflappable dudes,, doesnt much scare them thats for sure. and if something does, they can just pull the ninja headbanc over their eyes and its all good.
I really wanted a muppets "animal" figure for mine, but all the ones I found were way to big,, way heavy, or well they just didnt look like Animal, I wanted the full on head of animal hair stuffed in the canopy, figured he could cope with the flying style I have,,
alas I settled on the tough looking german dude, when I painted him up I even gave him a 5 oclock shadow to really make him feel tuff enuff.
Also note, I gave him no control stick, or insterments to keep him further in the dark
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Re: My new Classic victim for the year
« Reply #13 on: May 01, 2008, 12:51:26 PM »
Mark, you've let the cat out of the bag.

Your tough german WW11 pilot was part of a secret experiment in mind control aircraft. He don' need no steeenking controls or inst'ments.

It's looking good buddy. I look forward to seeing it later this month.

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Re: My new Classic victim for the year
« Reply #14 on: May 01, 2008, 01:12:55 PM »
Ok John, ya caught me, but the dude was mind controlling me and made me,, he was tired of doing all the work and not getting any credit. especially after the first couple flights,, I had to open a vent in the cockpit to let out his perspiration! lol LL~
Hows your project coming, will it make the Regionals? you planning on luxuriating in the canvas castle again this year?
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Re: My new Classic victim for the year
« Reply #15 on: May 01, 2008, 02:09:16 PM »
I'm sure that look on his face is just sheer terror. My guys doesn't know any better. He thinks I know what I'm doing.

Look forward to seeing guys at Eugene. Anybody else at the Quality Inn?
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Re: My new Classic victim for the year
« Reply #16 on: May 01, 2008, 02:17:06 PM »
Randy,
if I were smart enough I would probably be insulted by that comment thinking it was a commentary on my flying skill, or lack thereof?
lol
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Re: My new Classic victim for the year
« Reply #17 on: May 01, 2008, 03:13:12 PM »
Randy,, yeah TMNT are pretty tough unflappable dudes,, doesnt much scare them thats for sure. and if something does, they can just pull the ninja headbanc over their eyes and its all good.
I really wanted a muppets "animal" figure for mine, but all the ones I found were way to big,, way heavy, or well they just didnt look like Animal, I wanted the full on head of animal hair stuffed in the canopy, figured he could cope with the flying style I have,,
alas I settled on the tough looking german dude, when I painted him up I even gave him a 5 oclock shadow to really make him feel tuff enuff.
Also note, I gave him no control stick, or insterments to keep him further in the dark
Do you guys have a anti gravity device in these planes LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~ HB~>

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Re: My new Classic victim for the year
« Reply #18 on: May 01, 2008, 04:09:04 PM »
Leo, we build at higher than sea level, and lower humidity, so the air trapped inside our planes is lighter than yours is,, Thats why Pats planes are always so light I have figured out, now if you moved to Denver and built your planes there, they would almost weigh nothing,, y1 LL~
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Re: My new Classic victim for the year
« Reply #19 on: May 02, 2008, 09:34:37 AM »
Leo, we build at higher than sea level, and lower humidity, so the air trapped inside our planes is lighter than yours is,, Thats why Pats planes are always so light I have figured out, now if you moved to Denver and built your planes there, they would almost weigh nothing,, y1 LL~
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Re: My new Classic victim for the year
« Reply #20 on: May 02, 2008, 12:05:37 PM »
Ah yes, I plan on staying in the "canvas castle". I plan on having the new Pathfinder there, but I'm not too sure how much trimming will be done before I get there.

It's in the base coat, "Yellow" and I do mean YELLOW. Trim colors this weekend. Stay tuned.

I am also bringing the "Dutch Ovens" so I expect to eat well at the camp sight each evening.
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Re: My new Classic victim for the year
« Reply #21 on: May 02, 2008, 01:38:03 PM »
John,

Yea, I'm not sure my classic plane will be ready for the Regionals. Even if it is, it will have from 0 to maybe 4 flights on it. Oh well, it won't be the first Regionals that a plane of mine got it's maiden flight.
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Re: My new Classic victim for the year
« Reply #22 on: May 02, 2008, 02:10:20 PM »
WOW  (PE**)

Hey Mark

That is one nice Oriental. Superb paint and detail.

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Re: My new Classic victim for the year
« Reply #23 on: May 02, 2008, 10:12:31 PM »
Mark...I like your Ornreymental. Any chance you could flip it over and show us a shot of the wing mounted LG?
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Re: My new Classic victim for the year
« Reply #24 on: May 02, 2008, 10:45:50 PM »
Thanks for the positive feedback guys.
not much to see Steve, pretty standard stuff. I built up the LG blocks from 1/8 ply, two layers, then cut false ribs to fit between the spars supporting the blocks. the blocks tie into the spars as well. then 1/16 ply caps with screws to hold the gear in place.
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Re: My new Classic victim for the year
« Reply #25 on: May 03, 2008, 07:18:12 PM »
Gee, Mark. You almost look like you know what you're doing. Wish I could say the same.

I'm off to shoot base color on mine.
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Re: My new Classic victim for the year
« Reply #26 on: May 03, 2008, 11:30:04 PM »
Very nice Mark. It looks good with the wing forward.

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