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Re: New classic plane started
« Reply #200 on: March 12, 2017, 06:25:42 PM »
I was bad this year. No VSC for me. But I will post a picture. Just have the control surfaces left to cover. Got distracted with some machining for the next plane and sharpening the chainsaws.
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« Reply #201 on: March 12, 2017, 09:26:21 PM »
Don't feel bad. No VSC for me either. Just too many other things happening.

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« Reply #202 on: March 13, 2017, 02:26:02 PM »
Should say, this is just covered. No clear coats. I used thinner to attach it. Less trapped water. Worked well.
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« Reply #203 on: March 13, 2017, 06:21:52 PM »
Should say, this is just covered. No clear coats. I used thinner to attach it. Less trapped water. Worked well.

 Thanks for the reminder on that routine Randy, I always forget to try it that way and I'm almost ready to do the P-38. How much clear did you have on the bare wood? I usually start covering after two good coats of 50/50 and a light sanding.
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Re: New classic plane started
« Reply #204 on: March 14, 2017, 11:43:32 AM »
3 coats of unthinned clear prior to covering.
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« Reply #205 on: March 14, 2017, 07:19:38 PM »
3 coats of unthinned clear prior to covering.

 Holy cow.
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« Reply #206 on: March 17, 2017, 09:55:27 AM »
Nope. It's a regular cow.
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« Reply #207 on: April 10, 2017, 01:05:33 PM »
OK, I think I've go the warp in the outboard wing fixed. Back to finishing the, ah, finish.
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« Reply #208 on: April 10, 2017, 07:56:17 PM »

 Uh oh.
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« Reply #209 on: April 11, 2017, 02:46:13 PM »
Funny how something can be dead straight prior to finish then suddenly develop and issues after covering. But I got it. Looked last night and it's still straight to I think I'm good. Sheesh!
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« Reply #210 on: April 11, 2017, 06:50:04 PM »

 From here on out, cross your fingers with every coat.
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« Reply #211 on: April 12, 2017, 04:54:12 PM »
I vaguely remember a wing I painted that when I looked at it later had a warp.   Left it over night and next day it was a straight as it was before the coat of dope.
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« Reply #212 on: April 12, 2017, 08:55:28 PM »
I vaguely remember a wing I painted that when I looked at it later had a warp.   Left it over night and next day it was a straight as it was before the coat of dope.

 I've had flaps do that, curl up for a bit and then be dead straight again once they fully cure. I've also fine tuned them if necessary afterward with a Monokote iron. A wing can be a much bigger problem though, hope yours stays put Randy.
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« Reply #213 on: April 24, 2017, 10:41:02 AM »
I got it fixed, but due to other demands, I haven't been in the shop for a week. Next weekend is the Jim Walker Memorial contest in Portland, OR and I hope to attend that. So not sure when I'll get back to it. I cut a slot in the bottom of the trailing edge of the offending wing and used a piece of carbon tow to basically pull it straight. Then filled with some catalyzed filler. Looked at it yesterday and it's is still straight a week after the fix, so I think I'm OK. We'll see.
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Re: New classic plane started
« Reply #214 on: May 19, 2017, 02:20:41 PM »
This project is on long term hold. I managed to damage myself and won't be able to work on in for another month or so. Oh well.
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« Reply #215 on: May 19, 2017, 09:49:21 PM »
This project is on long term hold. I managed to damage myself and won't be able to work on in for another month or so. Oh well.

 That's a bummer Randy, hope the recovery is going ok at least.
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« Reply #216 on: May 20, 2017, 11:33:52 AM »
I guess I'm lucky Randy.  Told my rehab person about working on my planes while still using the brace, was told I should only be doing the required exercises.   I responded, "I guess that means I can't push the powered lawn mower.   The look I got and the reminded it has only been 2 1/2 weeks since surgery.  Still have to wear the brace another couple of weeks.

Now you take care of your self so we can meet up at the VSC again. H^^
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« Reply #217 on: June 30, 2017, 09:14:45 PM »
This project is on long term hold. I managed to damage myself and won't be able to work on in for another month or so. Oh well.

 How's things Randy? 
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Re: New classic plane started
« Reply #218 on: June 30, 2017, 09:16:55 PM »
How's things Randy?

He was at the contest in Chehalis last weekend, on crutches.  Sez he's doing well.  He can give a more complete report if he sees this.
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« Reply #219 on: July 03, 2017, 02:00:05 PM »
I'm doing OK. Couple of weeks and I can ditch the crutches (according to my physical therapist). Spent my first day in the shop in 8 weeks last Saturday. Still have a warp in the outboard wing. I had kinda hoped it would straighten itself out, but it didn't. So I straightened it. Now it's on to sanding.

I'm working on fixing the controls on my last stunt plane so I can finally get it back out and flying. And I have been machining a bracket to mount a new dehumidifier/filter for my compressor. Fun stuff.
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« Reply #220 on: July 04, 2017, 09:10:00 AM »
Hey kid you had better start taking care of your self.   Don't be surprised if you stumble around on that first flight when you do get back out. H^^
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« Reply #221 on: July 05, 2017, 01:23:41 PM »
Unlikely, Doc as my spouse will not likely let me fly until I'm somewhere in excess of 100%.
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« Reply #222 on: October 12, 2017, 09:25:38 PM »

 Ready to get back to it yet Randy?
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« Reply #223 on: October 19, 2017, 02:28:41 PM »
Nice timing. I'm back at it. Finally started sanding again.
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« Reply #224 on: October 23, 2017, 09:30:07 AM »
Based on all the contests I attended from 1964 through 1975, I never once saw any one that could tell me what their plane weighed and NONE on them ever actually weighed them. Many never even cared. So, any given weight from that era, with a few exceptions, are wild ass guesses, nothing more. Just  fly it. They did. D>K LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~

Since the pull test was based solely on engine disp. not weight, no one cared. Now they have to.


Since the early '70's I've never weighted a CL or RC plane just go by look & feel, and I've built so many can't even begin to pull a number up...


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« Reply #225 on: October 23, 2017, 10:13:41 AM »
Now Randy lay off the home duty chores until this is flying. VD~   At our age healing takes longer when we mess up.   H^^
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Re: New classic plane started
« Reply #226 on: November 19, 2017, 08:47:44 PM »

 Still sanding?
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« Reply #227 on: November 22, 2017, 04:12:22 PM »
And sanding and sanding and sanding. The a little filler, then sanding and sanding and sanding....etc.

Hey, at least it's getting lighter.
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« Reply #228 on: November 23, 2017, 09:20:30 PM »
 I'm a little ways behind where your at, just finally got the wing covered on the '38 with a couple fresh coats of clear now. A few other parts are silkspanned now too, and I'm already tired of sanding. Looking forward to some new pics out of the Powellworks to use as inspiration.
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« Reply #229 on: November 27, 2017, 04:10:56 PM »
Soon, man. I'm about 60% of the way through. I should be ready for base coat by the weekend. As my grandfather used to say, that's a lot of damn work, right there.
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« Reply #230 on: November 27, 2017, 07:57:59 PM »

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« Reply #231 on: November 30, 2017, 03:48:30 PM »
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« Reply #232 on: November 30, 2017, 04:45:23 PM »
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« Reply #233 on: November 30, 2017, 10:02:36 PM »
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« Reply #234 on: December 01, 2017, 06:35:49 PM »
Chanting while sanding
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« Reply #235 on: December 01, 2017, 08:19:55 PM »
Chanting while sanding

 Please direct us to the YouTube video.  LL~
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« Reply #236 on: December 06, 2017, 03:15:26 PM »
Well, it's sanded, more or less. A bit of touch up and I have one spot on the inboard bottom of the wing where I've sanded through like 4 times. Sheesh! but it's all good at the moment. A bit of fillercoat in like 3 spots and sanding and it will be ready for base color. Probably this weekend if I don't have to go to Portland. Joy.
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« Reply #237 on: December 18, 2017, 01:34:56 PM »
Hey Wayne, I finally got the base color on. But I'm afraid this pointed up about 20 places that will need attention including a dozen sand-throughs on the wing. Sigh... Well, it's said the best finishers are those than can recover the best from problems. What fun. I'll post some pics when I finally get the base color done. Sheesh!
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« Reply #238 on: December 18, 2017, 05:13:46 PM »
Hey Wayne, I finally got the base color on. But I'm afraid this pointed up about 20 places that will need attention including a dozen sand-throughs on the wing. Sigh... Well, it's said the best finishers are those than can recover the best from problems. What fun. I'll post some pics when I finally get the base color done. Sheesh!

 Right there with ya Randy, I'm in back-and-forth mode here too, a long way from color yet.
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« Reply #239 on: December 19, 2017, 11:52:04 AM »
Well, the main color is on there, but I will be patching and airbrushing for a bit. Not fun but that's the way it is with an I-Beam.
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« Reply #240 on: December 19, 2017, 09:07:14 PM »

 So, what do you do with all the sand throughs on the wing?
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« Reply #241 on: December 20, 2017, 01:22:01 PM »
I generally get the edges back together and hit them with CA. Then sand and put a small patch on. Sand, fill and dress that then shoot more base color on with an airbrush. Takes forever and is tedious to boot.

I dislike this because you usually can't see the buggers until after you've shot on base color. Ugh..
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« Reply #242 on: December 20, 2017, 07:46:02 PM »
I generally get the edges back together and hit them with CA. Then sand and put a small patch on. Sand, fill and dress that then shoot more base color on with an airbrush. Takes forever and is tedious to boot.

 Dang, I was sort of hoping for an Ancient Chinese Secret that I maybe hadn't ever heard of. That routine is about what I was thinking, except for the CA part which I think would leave you with hard spots to sand. I suppose if you're quick enough smoothing over the CA with a finger smear you can get away with it. Either way, NO FUN
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« Reply #243 on: December 23, 2017, 09:44:07 PM »
Ok, here's the pictures in base color. It's 2/3 Randolph White and 1/3 Insignia White. Also. there a before and after picture of one of the what felt like 5000 sand throughs. Before fixing the paint, the thing looked like an East LA low rider with primer gray patches all over it.
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« Reply #244 on: December 24, 2017, 12:53:54 AM »
Donít you use Polyspan?  Fuzzies are easier to deal with than sandthroughs.
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« Reply #245 on: December 24, 2017, 10:18:27 AM »
Howard,

This is old school. Sig SGM silkspan and Randolph's dope. Since I'm out of SGM, I suspect I will go to Polyspan. I've used it before but never liked it much. Guess I'll have to learn to like it.
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« Reply #246 on: December 24, 2017, 05:34:51 PM »
It's 2/3 Randolph White and 1/3 Insignia White.

 I always have to wonder Randy, do you do these things to yourself just so it's impossible to match down the road if necessary?  :##
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« Reply #247 on: December 26, 2017, 01:54:33 PM »
I keep some for touch up. I did this because I was trying to match the picture I have of the original.  Insignia White is a very bright blue/white. Randolph's white is a sort of tan tint eggshell white. The original Mirage III (of which I have exactly one color picture of) is sort of in between.
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« Reply #248 on: December 29, 2017, 06:28:16 PM »
Man, I am about to throw a tantrum. I have these two spots that are being a pain. I'm on my third time sanding and repainting these two tiny spots and I swear there are demons involved. Sheesh!
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Re: New classic plane started
« Reply #249 on: December 29, 2017, 07:24:52 PM »
Man, I am about to throw a tantrum. I have these two spots that are being a pain. I'm on my third time sanding and repainting these two tiny spots and I swear there are demons involved. Sheesh!

 Still the sand throughs or an adhesion issue or?
Narrowly averting disaster since 1964! 

Wayne Willey
Albert Lea, MN U.S.A.
IC Aircraft Modeler, Ex AMA member


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