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Title: My version of The Jack Sheeks' Spitfire
Post by: john e. holliday on January 17, 2008, 04:59:38 PM
Here it is framed up with wings covered with Poly Span.  Dope is thinned 50% and four coats on the wings and two on the main fuselage.  It will be powered with my trusty Fox 35 Stunt that is still in the Dragon.  Hope to have this at VSC.  Don't know weight as I haven't got my postal scales yet and the fish scales are all that accurate.  Later,  DOC Holliday
Title: Re: My version of The Jack Sheeks' Spitfire
Post by: Randy Powell on January 17, 2008, 06:15:33 PM
Now see, Doc, that's cool. It just oozes coolness. Hope you are bringing it to VSC.
Title: Re: My version of The Jack Sheeks' Spitfire
Post by: john e. holliday on January 17, 2008, 06:42:28 PM

That's the plan.  DOC Holliday
Title: Re: My version of The Jack Sheeks' Spitfire
Post by: Dennis Adamisin on January 17, 2008, 08:56:41 PM
What Randy said!!!  H^^ CLP** BW@ HH%%

Way to go Doc!  Looks like you are about ready for camo???  Gray/Green?  Dark Earth & Spinach?  Desert Tan? or...????
Title: Re: My version of The Jack Sheeks' Spitfire
Post by: Chris Edinger on January 17, 2008, 09:16:53 PM
Dang it Doc.. you didnt tell me you were into warbirds... my all time favorites... that looks great... cant wait tosee it in Camo Colors i presume?? 

Chris
Title: Re: My version of The Jack Sheeks' Spitfire
Post by: Mark Scarborough on January 17, 2008, 09:31:07 PM
Loooks sweeet Doc! I have always loved the elliptical planform wings,, they just look so elegant
Title: Re: My version of The Jack Sheeks' Spitfire
Post by: Tom Niebuhr on January 18, 2008, 07:16:26 AM
Doc,

Looking Great. looks like we will be doing Jack proud!
Title: Re: My version of The Jack Sheeks' Spitfire
Post by: EddyR on January 18, 2008, 06:08:32 PM
Super I/beam I have seen those plans many times but never seen one built. It looks like a challenge to get a strong trailing edge with that change of direction in the middle. Nice job
Ed
Title: Re: My version of The Jack Sheeks' Spitfire
Post by: john e. holliday on January 18, 2008, 09:20:52 PM
There is 1/8th ply embeded on the front side of the trailing edge.  The leading edge is the one that was fun.  There are plates that help control the curve of similar to the Staggerwing he designed.   One thing about I-Beam wings is you better like cutting ribs.  Haven't compared them yet, but, I think someone stated that Jack used the same airfoil for all his ribs.  More to come,  DOC Holliday
Title: Re: My version of The Jack Sheeks' Spitfire
Post by: Bill Little on January 19, 2008, 01:11:39 AM
No, Doc, I have a few templates (each a *little* different) for some of Jack's I-Beam planes.  If he used the same airfoil, they didn't get published that way.
Title: Re: My version of The Jack Sheeks' Spitfire
Post by: Bill Little on January 21, 2008, 03:46:06 AM
Doc,

Your work on this one inspires me!  You are doing great.

I like the way  you got the LEs done.
Title: Re: My version of The Jack Sheeks' Spitfire
Post by: Terry Bolin on January 30, 2008, 07:45:10 PM
Great job Doc!
How long did it take you to get that far?
Looks like a lot of hours!
Title: Re: My version of The Jack Sheeks' Spitfire
Post by: john e. holliday on February 01, 2008, 09:59:55 AM
Hi Terry,  I think I have maybe about three weeks into it.  The construction goes pretty fast once the fuse is done.  The cutting of ribs gets to be a chore, but, is fun,  Now have Now have 8 coats of thinned nitrate clear on the polyester and four more with talc in the dope.  I have been doing two coats and then let set for a day or two.  Hope to have it ready for VSC.  Later DOC Holliday
Title: Re: My version of The Jack Sheeks' Spitfire
Post by: Bill Little on February 01, 2008, 11:31:38 AM
Hi Terry,  I think I have maybe about three weeks into it.  The construction goes pretty fast once the fuse is done.  The cutting of ribs gets to be a chore, but, is fun,  Now have Now have 8 coats of thinned nitrate clear on the polyester and four more with talc in the dope.  I have been doing two coats and then let set for a day or two.  Hope to have it ready for VSC.  Later DOC Holliday

Hi Doc,

How did you jig up the LE?? 
Title: Re: My version of The Jack Sheeks' Spitfire
Post by: john e. holliday on February 13, 2008, 04:46:54 PM
Sorry Bill, I have been in this part of the forum for awhile.  If you look real close you will see some spacers between the spar and the leading edge.  Of course the fuse is the center jig and then tip jigs to align everything.  You know typical I-beam construction.  The Spit now has primer on the parts I think that need primer waiting to be sanded.  Of all the pictures I can find of the Spit do not show the colors.  So I am going with a light grey on under neath sides.  Then Olive drab for the dark areas and some yellow added to lighten it up for the light areas.  The canopy will probably be light grey.  Haven't made all the odd bumps and bulges yet.  The P-39 is ready for clear, minus the nit picking stuff that I may add after initial flights.  Later,  DOC Holliday
Title: Re: My version of The Jack Sheeks' Spitfire
Post by: Bill Little on February 13, 2008, 08:28:18 PM
Thank, Doc.  The bottom on the RAF planes were *Robin Egg Blue* (IIRC, it was SOME *egg*).  An almost aqua color.  Tops were *sand and spinach* (tan and green, of course) or dark green/gray.

You have done a beautiful job on the Spit AND the P-39!
Title: Re: My version of The Jack Sheeks' Spitfire
Post by: Terry Bolin on February 15, 2008, 10:12:20 PM
Wow Doc. You have alot going on. You might be glad to see spring so you can get some rest. I know we have this same subject going on in the "Open" also but How many pages of plans are there to your plane? Am I gonna see ya next week at St. Louis? Again, Lookin good!
Terry
Title: Re: My version of The Jack Sheeks' Spitfire
Post by: Dennis Adamisin on February 25, 2008, 03:20:18 PM
Hey Doc:
the consensus is your P-39 looks great - but have you made any progress on the Spit? You are on a fast-track for the Sheeks Award at VSC!
Title: Re: My version of The Jack Sheeks' Spitfire
Post by: Neville Legg on February 26, 2008, 10:04:56 AM
Hello all,

Colours for RAF aircraft of WW2 varied, under surfaces are SKY and the upper surfaces are DARK EARTH and DARK GREEN.  I have an original 1942 Aircraft of the Fighting Powers, and in it are the official Air Ministry colour charts, a complete page of official colour chips! If I can scan the page in and the colours don't vary too much, I'll try and put it on here. You yanks never get RAF colours correct!!!! S?P

Cheers   Neville
Title: Re: My version of The Jack Sheeks' Spitfire
Post by: Bill Little on February 26, 2008, 12:42:13 PM
Hello all,

Colours for RAF aircraft of WW2 varied, under surfaces are SKY and the upper surfaces are DARK EARTH and DARK GREEN.  I have an original 1942 Aircraft of the Fighting Powers, and in it are the official Air Ministry colour charts, a complete page of official colour chips! If I can scan the page in and the colours don't vary too much, I'll try and put it on here. You yanks never get RAF colours correct!!!! S?P

Cheers   Neville

Hi Neville,

Is there a Duck Egg or Robin Egg blue listed??  Over 35 years ago, when I was doing the IPMS thing, that was a color referred to in literature for the undersides of the Spitfire and such.  I also recall buying a tin of Humbrol paint in that color.  (something) egg blue.
Title: Re: My version of The Jack Sheeks' Spitfire
Post by: Neville Legg on February 26, 2008, 01:50:07 PM
Hello Bill,

The colour you are referring to is Duck egg blue/green, it was officially known as Sky.
Sky does look duck egg coloured, Son B, (I have two, A and B!) tells me that if I scan these colour chips in to the comp. they will look nothing like the correct colours! (kids know everything, don't they?) I bow to his superior knowledge. If you want to see 100's of colour pictures of Spitfires go to the Air-Britain site  http://www.abpic.co.uk/index.php  type in Spitfire and spend the rest of the evening on the web!!!! its a superb site for colour schemes, also you could try Primeportal.net.

Cheers  Neville
Title: Re: My version of The Jack Sheeks' Spitfire
Post by: Neville Legg on February 26, 2008, 03:32:42 PM
By the way, if you click on the pictures on the Air-Britain site, they keep enlarging to screen size!! There's a lovely silver and red Spitfire on there!

Cheers  Neville
Title: Re: My version of The Jack Sheeks' Spitfire
Post by: john e. holliday on February 26, 2008, 09:13:34 PM
Well guys/gals I have already started painting the Spit.  I bought a plastic scale high dollar kit to get the color scheme I like.  The bottem is a light grey.  The top is a darker grey with a dark green, but, yet it is not too dark either.  I sprayed the greys today and hope to get the green on tomorrow.  Later, DOC Holliday
Title: Re: My version of The Jack Sheeks' Spitfire
Post by: Bill Little on February 27, 2008, 12:17:53 PM
Well guys/gals I have already started painting the Spit.  I bought a plastic scale high dollar kit to get the color scheme I like.  The bottem is a light grey.  The top is a darker grey with a dark green, but, yet it is not too dark either.  I sprayed the greys today and hope to get the green on tomorrow.  Later, DOC Holliday

That will look great, Doc! 

I seem to remember the Sterling plans having those colors on the call outs.... That one AND the P-39 will be killers!
Which engine are you putting into them??  I keep forgetting, sorry..  :-[  n~  :##  (seems I remember a FP40??)
Title: Re: My version of The Jack Sheeks' Spitfire
Post by: john e. holliday on February 28, 2008, 01:20:53 PM
The Spit will have one of my Fox 35 Stunts.  Just need to finish the graphics so I can shoot the clear.  DOC Holliday