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Classic Designs => Classic Planes => Topic started by: Leester on December 21, 2009, 12:40:32 PM
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While doing some shop cleaning I saw my Norvel .15 which I've never run and got thinking what I had for it. Looking through my stash I found my Walter Umland Magician 15 kit signed By Jim Silhavy. I got it down and .. well, man I need to build this. Now I'm wondering the Norvel, FP15 or LAS15 I even have a Fox 15 ???? I have so many projects started now whats 1 more VD~ VD~ VD~ I can see this guy on my shoulder saying you ain't got no BA%$# if you don't !!!
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Leester, I also have a Norvel .15 waiting to be used, i believe mine is a ame model and wants to run fast on some sort of pressure. It has about 30 minutes run time on the bench and was very tight when new, it will still lock up tight when flooded! Good luck with the motor you choose, i too have several projects going on including a scratch build Super Firecat, Vector kit and a foam wing .40 size trainer, oh yeah and all the 1/2 a's i want to build!! I am leaning toward a Flite Streak JR. for my Norvel down the road but if you choose to use yours on the little Magician i will be looking forward to the build reports as i love my full size Magician. Happy Holidays!!! Ray Copeland
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That Magician 15 is a very small airplane. If one came to me, I would power it with only the lightest of 15's, or maybe a TeeDee .09.
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Well the Fox 15X is the lightest I have at 3 1/2 oz next is the LAS 15 at 4oz (without muffler).
Love this laser cut kit even has 1/4" jig holes.
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The wing goes together fast in the jig, wing tips and center sheeting will just about do it. Thinking the LAS 15 might be my best choice, no muffler required were we fly.
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Just have to shape the leading edge and another complete sanding and it's ready for the fuselage.
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A little more done on it. Changed my mind and went with the Fox 15X hey they need lovin too. LL~ LL~
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Gettin close to finishing time, a bunch of sanding to do then some dope. As it is it's 9 1/2 oz the recommended weight is 15 oz.
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The construction is looking great. Too bad the Magician is such a homely plane. Maybe that is why it flies so well. H^^
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I don't think its homely....in the '30s it would have been considered futuristic! Wished I had a plan, I would build one myself. Hmmmm....I do have a McCoy RH .19 H^^
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Nice looking Leester, I'm building a Brodak right now. Question, what are you doing for leadout guides? I have glued them right on the tip. Don't know if I like it or not. Construction looks almost identical. Jack
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Hey I built my Brodak Magician box stock. No adjustable leadouts or weight box. Flies mucho better than I can with Brodak .25 on 3 once fuel tank, Brodak of course.
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Jack, I'll do my lead outs just like yours. I believe Walter sold his rights to the kit to Brodak.
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Hi Leester, about the lead outs, I just don't know how the'll look with the covering on. I had cut some more tips out of 1/8 to make a sandwitch and burry them. Evan made a slider with the same line spacing as on the plans. that was a waste. as you might get 1/4 inch adjustment. Anyways looks good. looking forward to seeing finish and flight reports.
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Jack, the tips look OK without the adj lead outs. Here's a ARF Nobler wing that I put in a Metaphor 1 (take off of a Magician ) they don't look bad.
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Thats exactly what i was thinking of doing. With the little blocks, not just the tubes, like mine are now.
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Thanks for the pictures.