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Title: Jr Nobler help
Post by: John Miller on November 12, 2011, 12:29:48 PM
Can some one supply me with a scan, or the dimensions for the stab and elevator for the Jr. Nobler? H^^
Title: Re: Jr Nobler help
Post by: John Kelly on November 12, 2011, 01:45:46 PM
Hey John... These are taken from a kit I started and matched to one of the other kits still in the boxes.
Title: Re: Jr Nobler help
Post by: John Miller on November 12, 2011, 01:50:41 PM
Thanks John, That was just what I needed. H^^
Title: Re: Jr Nobler help
Post by: John Kelly on November 12, 2011, 02:15:26 PM
You're  very welcome John, glad I could help. The length is thirteen and 15/16ths, the ruler slipped a little when I scanned it. (The thickness is 1/8th.) Looks like I'll have to finish it now that I looked at it. I got back into flying .15 size ships when Joe Mig, his son Joe and I started flying at Forest Park this year. I fly at FMP and remember Dick Kurth and so many CRAZY 8's telling me about Forest Park. It's really a thrill to fly there with all it's history. Some of us have been trying to get the overgrown trees pruned so more of us can fly larger longer lines ships but it seems to be a toss back and forth as to who's responsible for the work. I downloaded the incredible Umland video and can't tell you how many times I've watched it. Gotta run.
Title: Re: Jr Nobler help
Post by: Gordan Delaney on December 13, 2011, 07:13:34 PM
John,
Are you designing another airplane? Is it going to be called Jr. Nobler. '' #^ mw~ LL~ LL~ LL~ S?P /DV y1 n1
Title: Re: Jr Nobler help
Post by: John Miller on December 13, 2011, 10:16:22 PM
Shhhhh Gordy, maybe I can slip this one by...... :! n~ VD~ VD~ H^^
Title: Re: Jr Nobler help
Post by: Bill Little on December 14, 2011, 03:20:23 AM
Hi John,

I have a brand new Jr. Nobler (4 flights at least 15 years ago!) with a Fox .15X (all I had at the time!).  Going to swap engines to either a .15FP, .10FSR, or .10FP.  Can't decide which, but *probably* the .15FP. ;D

Big Bear
Title: Re: Jr Nobler help
Post by: John Miller on December 14, 2011, 08:39:57 AM
Hi Bill, How's it going?

I've been told by those that have flown them, that the Jr. Nobler flies pretty good. I'll bet your engine choices will work out fine. What does yours weigh?

I just finished the plans for this one for Brodak, so look for it as a new kt in the future.

Just for info, I'm currently working on the Peacemaker, the full fuselaged version.
Title: Re: Jr Nobler help
Post by: john e. holliday on December 14, 2011, 10:16:37 AM
Now the cats out of the bag.   Will look forward to the full bodied Peacemaker. H^^
Title: Re: Jr Nobler help
Post by: Bill Little on December 14, 2011, 10:19:03 AM
Hi Bill, How's it going?

I've been told by those that have flown them, that the Jr. Nobler flies pretty good. I'll bet your engine choices will work out fine. What does yours weigh?

I just finished the plans for this one for Brodak, so look for it as a new kt in the future.

Just for info, I'm currently working on the Peacemaker, the full fuselaged version.

Hi John,

I don't know the weight, but IIRC it is pretty light.  It flew very nicely, but I couldn't get the engine right.

I have some plans from England where the Peacemaker (full fuse) was printed years after George's MAN article,

If you would like to see those, I can send them to you.  Nice plans and article with a real attempt at keeping the model true to the original.   One of my other "wants" as a kid! LL~ LL~

Bill
Title: Re: Jr Nobler help
Post by: John Miller on December 14, 2011, 12:02:15 PM
I would like to see those, just to make sure that things are accurate. I'm working off the Model Airplane news plans. Thanks for the offer.

Cheers H^^
Title: Re: Jr Nobler help
Post by: Dennis Adamisin on December 14, 2011, 03:26:52 PM
Shhhhh Gordy, maybe I can slip this one by...... :! n~ VD~ VD~ H^^

Not only is the cat outta the bag, but I ALREADY have the power system ready for it..!   ;D
Title: Re: Jr Nobler help
Post by: Bill Little on December 15, 2011, 03:00:17 PM
I would like to see those, just to make sure that things are accurate. I'm working off the Model Airplane news plans. Thanks for the offer.

Cheers H^^

Hi John,

I will get the English full fuselage Peacemaker plans and article to you ASAP.  They look to be almost identical to the GMA ones in MAN.

Bill
Title: Re: Jr Nobler help
Post by: Shultzie on December 17, 2011, 10:21:40 AM
Here is a photo from an old slide...All I can remember about that Jr. Nobler that after I crashed that old blue on the back parking lot of the Boeing Space Center parking lot...was that I also destroyed my all time favorite Cox TD free flight engine that powered that slightly over weight "squirrleeee' handling" little mini Nobler that I flew on really thin little  40 ft. single strand lines when a kinked up line failed on a reverse wing over. :'(
Title: Re: Jr Nobler help
Post by: dankar on April 24, 2012, 01:08:39 AM
A friend of mine had one with Cox .15 and it flew very nice. I have had a few of these kits but sold them.
Title: Re: Jr Nobler help
Post by: Terrence Durrill on April 24, 2012, 01:46:04 PM
Shultzie wrote .................
"Here is a photo from an old slide...All I can remember about that Jr. Nobler that after I crashed that old blue on the back parking lot of the Boeing Space Center parking lot...was that I also destroyed my all time favorite Cox TD free flight engine that powered that slightly over weight "squirrleeee' handling" little mini Nobler that I flew on really thin little  40 ft. single strand lines when a kinked up line failed on a reverse wing over."





Hey Shultzie, that is why I mostly fly over grass.........In 59 years of Control Line flying (mostly over grass...but not always), I have never destroyed an engine in a crash and I have had a few crashes.....It might be prudence or maybe just luck!      y1       D>K
Title: Re: Jr Nobler help
Post by: Jim Thomerson on April 24, 2012, 04:55:19 PM
Some years back, I sent George Aldrich's templates for the original profile Peacemaker to John
Brodak, in the hope that someday a kit would appear.
Title: Re: Jr Nobler help
Post by: Dennis Saydak on April 25, 2012, 12:41:37 PM
One of our clubmembers who is an excellent competition pilot had a Jr. Nobler a few years ago. It was powered by a Fox .15 (non schnerle version). It flew the pattern just beautifully. I'd sure jump on a Brodak kit of this one in a hurry.
Title: Re: Jr Nobler help
Post by: dankar on April 26, 2012, 09:11:00 AM
Tank space is problem with these Plans show old Veco T-34 tank that was 1 1/3oz.  Brodak makes same type or better tank. Diesel would work pretty good in this.  You know those dirty stinky nasty oozing chunks of metal.  LL~ LL~ just joking as this is right plane for them.