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Offline Jack Goff

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Help identifying old kits?
« on: March 12, 2025, 08:50:57 PM »
I bought some old kits from an estate, and I've never seen some of the manufacturers.  Two in particular are really stumping me.  The one in the yellow box with the manufacturer U-Control, and the other in the green box named Schmitt's.  Both are old, and appear to be Japanese.  I actually have three of each, and they are all mint!  Does anyone have any info on these?

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Re: Help identifying old kits?
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2025, 12:50:14 AM »
No real info, but I had the U-Control Zeke kit from Japan. Got it when I was a kid because "it was a big plane" and the least expensive. It had a lot of interesting features. The plans were in Japanese, but it came with an onionskin sheet of "translations."  I still remember being instructed "...to mix the powdered bones."

The wheels were solid hard rubber. The fuel tank (supplied) was a clear plastic like you might find on takeout food. The "rising suns" we printed red paper. The balsa was amazingly light, which I did not appreciate at the time since it made planking the fuselage so much more difficult. As I recall, some or all of the bulkheads were 3-ply luan? I think the wing spar was as well, at least out to the landing gear. The real attraction was a spun aluminum cowling. Spiffy!

I still have the plane. It never did really fly very successfully. A Torp.09 Greenhead was never going to be up to the job no matter what the box might have said.

Good luck with your kits,

Dave

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Re: Help identifying old kits?
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2025, 09:53:02 AM »
  I have never seen the Schmitts brand before but looks interesting. The U-Control I think is more or less the same and the early Kyosho kits and the Aristo-Craft kits that the Polk brothers imported in the 50's and 60's. I think I have one or two like that also.
  It's odd that a Japanese company would have a name like Schitts!!  The models on the cover look interesting though!!

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Re: Help identifying old kits?
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2025, 11:06:13 AM »
Some enterprising soldier there on occupation duty took the opportunity to go in business with a Japanese company..  I served with a CPO  that did that with a Japanese motorcycle company.. He got a special dealership with them... D>K
Look under the word "Spitfire"  under the photo, and you can see the Chinese writing used by the Japanese. I know that sounds strange  but that's  what they call it.

Occupation ended right after the Korean war, so those kits are more than likely  from the mid  50's to early 60's.
Ty Marcucci

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Re: Help identifying old kits?
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2025, 06:39:27 PM »

 I can't prove it but I'm pretty confident that U-Control, KYO, and Kyosho are all one in the same, just different eras of production and possibly ownership.
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Re: Help identifying old kits?
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2025, 07:48:43 PM »
No real info, but I had the U-Control Zeke kit from Japan. Got it when I was a kid because "it was a big plane" and the least expensive. It had a lot of interesting features. The plans were in Japanese, but it came with an onionskin sheet of "translations."  I still remember being instructed "...to mix the powdered bones."

The wheels were solid hard rubber. The fuel tank (supplied) was a clear plastic like you might find on takeout food. The "rising suns" we printed red paper. The balsa was amazingly light, which I did not appreciate at the time since it made planking the fuselage so much more difficult. As I recall, some or all of the bulkheads were 3-ply luan? I think the wing spar was as well, at least out to the landing gear. The real attraction was a spun aluminum cowling. Spiffy!

I still have the plane. It never did really fly very successfully. A Torp.09 Greenhead was never going to be up to the job no matter what the box might have said.

Good luck with your kits,

Dave

I finally got around to taking a closer look at the U-Control kits I have.  I don't have the onion skin translation in my kits, but right on the plans there's a paragraph that says to mix the "powdered bones" when talking about sanding sealer and sanding to a "velvety" finish.  And a tank that is a plastic clunk type tank with a screw-on neck, with the hard rubber wheels.  Also a couple have some colored paper for covering that's nothing like silkspan, and that spun aluminum cowl. LOL.

If I ever build one, I do have a good Fox .15 I could use, or go electric.  I may sell a couple, and keep one for display.  Pretty cool old stuff.  Look like an easy build (other than translation), as the parts are all nicely machine cut and marked to match the plans.  Thanks for the reply.

Jack

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Re: Help identifying old kits?
« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2025, 02:48:43 AM »
Hmmm. Interesting. As I recall, the tank in the Oscar was two premolded, hard, clear plastic pieces that were heat-sealed together around the horizontal centerline. It had plastic "straws" coming out of it for standard over-n-under venting. I don't think I used it(?), so it might still be in the kit box. There were also two pieces of shiny metal sheet that must have been for landing gear doors? The Oscar was fully planked so I didn't get/use any covering. But as a kid, planking that whole thing and making it look nice was a bit of a challenge. I would think the Fox .15 would pull it just fine. I recently ran one on a Magician 15 and it had more than enough umph! For those that may not have figured out the translation, the "powdered bones" was what you mixed with water to make the glue. I think I just bought what the guys in the hobby shop called a "gloob-a-two."  Almost certainly a tube of Ambroid given the era.

Fun memories. Hope you enjoy building one of yours,

Dave


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