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Offline Bill Little

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Re: Midwest ME 109
« Reply #50 on: February 22, 2014, 11:29:44 AM »
Hi Bill,
The P-63, P-51 and Me-109 all have swept leading edges. I never had the others, they may be constant chord.
Chris...

mea culpa, Chris. I don't have a clue why I said that.  The P-40 is the only one with a "constant chord".  From appearances all the others might have used the same wing with different wing tips, but I am not sure.

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Re: Midwest ME 109
« Reply #51 on: February 22, 2014, 10:12:42 PM »
mea culpa, Chris. I don't have a clue why I said that.  The P-40 is the only one with a "constant chord".  From appearances all the others might have used the same wing with different wing tips, but I am not sure.

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The P-40  doesn't have constant chord either ...... :-)

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Re: Midwest ME 109
« Reply #52 on: February 23, 2014, 02:29:32 PM »
The P-40  doesn't have constant chord either ...... :-)

Randy

Well, it fooled me, Randy.  Looks like a straight LE, TE and tapered flaps.  ???  Haven't had those plans out in a long time.

I built the Skyraider, P-63, Me 109.  Scratch built the P-51.  All did have a swept LE.

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Re: Midwest ME 109
« Reply #53 on: February 23, 2014, 06:54:18 PM »
Well, it fooled me, Randy.  Looks like a straight LE, TE and tapered flaps.  ???  Haven't had those plans out in a long time.

I built the Skyraider, P-63, Me 109.  Scratch built the P-51.  All did have a swept LE.

Bill

Well the ones I built and flew , the wing root was wider than the wing at the outer edge... and the  rear of the wing was tapered...  But I was poking at you, I know what you are meaning, that the  ribs  are  the same size all the way to the tips.

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Re: Midwest ME 109
« Reply #54 on: April 04, 2014, 07:08:18 PM »
I have one of the 48" Midwest p 40 planes downstairs. It is kit no.244 according to the label on the box. I have had two of the p 63's one was modified with a nobler wing, it still is around, the other was not so lucky. They flew quite well.  George

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Re: Midwest ME 109
« Reply #55 on: April 09, 2014, 05:48:49 PM »
I have one of the 48" Midwest p 40 planes downstairs. It is kit no.244 according to the label on the box. I have had two of the p 63's one was modified with a nobler wing, it still is around, the other was not so lucky. They flew quite well.  George

Hi George,

I am very interested in the P-63 with the Nobler wing.  That is what Mike Garmon did on the first series of Brodak Warbirds, only he shortened the wing slightly.  Did you mainly just have to make the hole in the fuselage fit the Nobler wing?  I think it would make the flyability much better!

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Re: Midwest ME 109
« Reply #56 on: April 13, 2014, 10:36:32 AM »
Bill  I did make the hole bigger and also made the stab and elevators the same span as the nobler tail. You didn't know the tail was longer unless you measured it ass it was only about 2" irrc.  George

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Re: Midwest ME 109
« Reply #57 on: April 13, 2014, 05:59:42 PM »
Bill  I did make the hole bigger and also made the stab and elevators the same span as the nobler tail. You didn't know the tail was longer unless you measured it ass it was only about 2" irrc.  George

Thanks, George.  I have three sets of Brodak Warbird ribs and would like to use one set in a P-63.  I need a tricycle gear model!  The last one I had was a stock Midwest P-63 back around 1972..............

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Re: Midwest ME 109
« Reply #58 on: April 14, 2014, 09:30:59 AM »
The P-40  doesn't have constant chord either ...... :-)

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Re: Midwest ME 109
« Reply #59 on: April 20, 2014, 03:20:50 PM »
Check out the proof on the bay.  Item numbers  161262604884   and    161262565837.    

The tips and flaps are part of the wing, if you measure the root and tip, it is NOT  a constant chord... and if you read my post ,I was just being technical to poke and joke  with  Bill. It wasn't meant to be any serious argument.. so I don't know what the point of your post is,  If your trying to say the internal ribs are the same size, then say that.

I don't need to look at Ebay as I have the kits and plans at home , I am aware of what the kits are., I built many of them

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Re: Midwest ME 109
« Reply #60 on: April 27, 2014, 01:23:11 PM »
Randy was just busting my chops and he made me chuckle.  He caught me writing without thinking. ;D  In the Midwest 48" P-40 wing, the ribs are all the same length, AFAIK.

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Re: Midwest ME 109
« Reply #61 on: June 01, 2014, 11:47:24 PM »
I like the Buster bash idea. I'm looking at a modified one right now and comparing to plan, Wing tip is almost dead on, Buster flaps need more taper to match P-40- easy, stab / wing positions are close, add some blocks to make the chin cowl and turtle deck, reshape the rudder elevator and once the Camo and Shark mouth, Flying Tiger,etc. May not be rule legal - but probably flys good...and would look good too!
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Re: Midwest ME 109
« Reply #62 on: June 26, 2021, 03:06:16 PM »
   ...plans for one on Ebay right now.

Why spend the money when its available for free?
The 33" Span..
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The 48" span..

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Re: Midwest ME 109
« Reply #63 on: March 24, 2022, 02:17:43 AM »
My Midwest P40 is here. OS La 46 was overkill. Spent alot of time restoring the original decals as they were faded. I posted them in the build somewhere. Its odd that so many people dont know about the Midwest P40. Its the nicest looking plane of the bunch!
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Re: Midwest ME 109
« Reply #64 on: March 31, 2022, 01:38:51 PM »
It certainly looks nice.  During the time these were popular,  only three of these ever showed up in hobby shops or at the field in my area.  The ME,  P-51 and P-63.  I never knew of any others until long after production stopped.  I guess there may have been six or seven different ones.  The only one I had direct experience with was the ME 109.  It was awesome on a tired Fox .35.  They are just a bit too new to be classic however.  Great for profile and nostalgia 30.
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Re: Midwest ME 109
« Reply #65 on: March 31, 2022, 04:47:28 PM »
It certainly looks nice.  During the time these were popular,  only three of these ever showed up in hobby shops or at the field in my area.  The ME,  P-51 and P-63.  I never knew of any others until long after production stopped.  I guess there may have been six or seven different ones.  The only one I had direct experience with was the ME 109.  It was awesome on a tired Fox .35.  They are just a bit too new to be classic however.  Great for profile and nostalgia 30.

   Just going from memory, there was the P-40, P-51, Skyraider, P-63, and the ME-109 in the .35 size Midwest Warbird Series. I think all but the Skyraider were made in a .15 size also. Some consider the Magician in both sizes part of the series also. The designer, Vince Maccia, also published some war bird profile .35 size models such as the Kawasaki Tony, and a few others that were Classic legal because they were published before the deadline. They have a bit better airfoil also because you didn't need to worry about the ribs fitting on as small a sheet of balsa as possible!! It would be cool to have an "All Vince Maccia) profile contest!
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