Thanks, Ty. 

But I was never worried about whether or not the flaps could be made movable.   Having built off the Midwest plans, I knew they could be both ways.   Even the Sterling P-51D, Yak 9 and PDQ/Brodak Super Clown are the same......

Big Bear

I'm in the process of building a Pat Johnston Magician with both wing panels equal. I moved to stab back two inches as Pat suggested and left the flaps stationary. I've flown Magicians with both moveable and stationary flaps and really couldn't tell the difference or if there was a difference I was too young to know. lol

Question for Ty--------Do you attribute the "monster" Magician to the fact that you moved the stab back AND added moveable flaps, or JUST the fact that you moved the stab back ?

Hi Dan. I attribute it to not knowing what I was doing at the time and read too many how too's without really understanding them at the time. Plus I may well have had some incidence issues.  After that experiment, I did a stock Magicain and felt all was right with the CLPA world again. So, it could well have been my messing with the recipe. I did name it :"The Socerers Apprentice". Apt name.

TY

     Thanks for your humble & honest answer !  The reason I'm intersted is because the Magician I'm finishing up now has the stab moved back around 3".  No moveable flaps.  It should be flying in a couple of weeks and then I'll know the story, good or bad.  Will have to fly it some till I can remember how to do this C/L stuff.  And if I can keep it out of the ground for the first dozen flights or so, I should be able to tell how well it does fly, as opposed to how well I don"t !