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F-86 Sabre build
« on: September 27, 2014, 10:00:19 PM »
New Classic started. First model in the new shop, too

1969 was a good year. Or so I've heard.

Lampione's F-86 Sabre.

edit: forgot to mention that this is another of Walter Umland's fine short kits.
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Re: Finally starting a new one
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2014, 09:41:08 PM »
Cool, this will be fun to watch. What are you planning for power Clint?

I'm partial to the Brodak 40 for most of these Classic era models. It's a no surprises power package for me as I've used them in my last several models. I know what props, fuel, tank size, and rpm range they like. I expect this plane to weigh roughly 44-48 oz and the sq.in. is about 610. So the Brodak should be perfect.
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Re: Finally starting a new one. F-86 Sabre
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2014, 12:43:47 AM »
Progress report.

For some reason the forum is only letting me add one pic per post. If I add two, I get a "file to large" message. I'll figure it out later.
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Re: Finally starting a new one. F-86 Sabre
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2014, 12:44:32 AM »
I usually start sanding and shaping as I go, but balsa dust kills me these days. So, I'm just doing all the big construction work first then I'll put away the jigs and use my new handy dandy sanding table to suck all the nasty dust as I shape stuff.
Doing the hinge slots and horn holes here. Yes, I'm using more than 2 per side!
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Re: Finally starting a new one. F-86 Sabre
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2014, 12:45:04 AM »
The Sabre's wing is a bit thin for this style of BC. A Tom Morris style would have fit better. Less hogging out of the ribs for clearance.
That is not spruce BC mounts. It's just old balsa turned brown.
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Re: F-86 Sabre build
« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2014, 11:30:23 PM »
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Re: F-86 Sabre build
« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2014, 03:08:25 PM »
Any more progress here Clint? D>K

A little bit. Not much photo worthy, though. Been working on wing tips, LG blocks, doping the tail feathers, little stuff like that.

Edit: a few pics

Wing tips
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Re: F-86 Sabre build
« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2014, 09:18:02 PM »
Misc. stuff.
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Re: F-86 Sabre build
« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2014, 03:20:41 PM »
Nope. They don't fit without interfering with the movement. '' See how close they are to the brass stand offs? So those little ones have thread locker on them then I covered them with JB weld. Probably never come off.  I hope.

The elevator horn has a lock nut, though.

 Hmm, it's your call Clint but the photo still makes me nervous, seeing how little bolt you've got sticking through. Can you flip the direction of the bolts from what you're showing in the photo and then put a washer and locknut against the ball joint bushing? Looking at the photo you would need a slightly longer bolt to do so (so it would reach the nylock portion of the nut) but it looks like it might work. If it's possible, I'd do that and then also red Loctite the nut on final assembly. Whatever let's you sleep... ;D :##
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Re: F-86 Sabre build *new pics 11/15/14
« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2014, 07:51:07 PM »
Good timing, Wayne. A little more progress.
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Re: F-86 Sabre build *new pics 11/15/14
« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2014, 07:53:34 PM »
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Re: F-86 Sabre build *new pics 12/1/14
« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2015, 02:07:35 AM »
Went back to work on it this evening. Lots of sanding and shaping taking place.
Slipped everything together just to get a mockup photo.
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Re: F-86 Sabre build *new pics 12/1/14
« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2015, 02:55:30 PM »
Very nice work. Very nice.
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Re: F-86 Sabre build *new pics 12/1/14
« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2015, 06:16:00 PM »
 It's always fun when they finally start looking like an airplane. Thanks for the update Clint, it's looking great! y1



 Here's something to think about... S?P

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 http://www.warbirdregistry.org/jetregistry/f86registry/images/f86-524959-a.jpg
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Re: F-86 Sabre build *new pics 12/1/14
« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2015, 10:41:13 PM »
...knock-knock...Clint?

Yeah yeah, I know. Get busy.

Nothing to report except its time to start doping the wood.
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Re: F-86 Sabre build *new pics 12/1/14
« Reply #15 on: March 02, 2015, 05:26:13 PM »

 Just kind of anxious to see'er done is all Clint, with your skills I'm confident this one is going to look great. y1
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Re: F-86 Sabre build *new pics 12/1/14
« Reply #16 on: May 25, 2015, 12:27:31 AM »
I've become so allergic to balsa dust that being in shop just isn't any fun anymore.

 Man, that sucks to hear Clint. Over the years I've heard a few people talk about being allergic to balsa dust, what are the symptoms?
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Re: F-86 Sabre build *new pics 12/1/14
« Reply #17 on: May 25, 2015, 10:49:48 AM »
Man, that sucks to hear Clint. Over the years I've heard a few people talk about being allergic to balsa dust, what are the symptoms?

It's just like Gerald says. All the same symptoms as bad hay fever, which I already have to endure as well. It used to only bother me when doing heavy duty sanding, but now all I have to do be around the stuff for a few minuets and I go through a roll of TP blowing my nose. It totally sucks. I have all these awesome planes to build but right now I couldn't be less interested.
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Re: F-86 Sabre build *new pics 12/1/14
« Reply #18 on: May 25, 2015, 11:10:55 AM »
I use a rebreather mask when doing serious sanding. My nose goes crazy if I don't. But I'm allergic to about anything that grows, so....
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Re: F-86 Sabre build *new pics 12/1/14
« Reply #19 on: May 25, 2015, 11:55:31 AM »

Coughing, sneezing, hacking, etc., etc.  %^@


 Heck, I've always assumed that was all part of the fun!

 Seriously, I get real bad hay fever every fall, usually shows up like clockwork mid-August and lasts until the first hard freeze or so. First noticed it one summer when I was 18 or 19 and I get it every year since. It does really suck when it's bad, times when your nose runs like a faucet and just will not stop. I've had periods where I'll have to set my alarm clock 10 or 15 minutes early to allow for the sneezing and runny nose blowing before I can start to get ready to go to work. Over the years I think I've tried every over-the-counter product there is for it, plus a few prescriptions. Nothing ever even phased it until I tried "Allergy D" 12 hour pills. It's just a simple product that's available behind the Pharmacy counter at Wal-Mart, no prescription required, just show your ID. It doesn't make you feel all weirded-out like a lot of them do either, at least any more than normal. :##
 
 I've used it for about 8-9 years now and it works really well. During "the season" it works well enough for me that around the 11th hour I can actually start to tell that I need to pop another. On rare occasion when it get's really bad I'll eat one every six hours. That's probably not a real good thing but at times it's a necessary evil just to even be able to function. Might be worth a try Clint, we need you back here!
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Re: F-86 Sabre build *new pics 12/1/14
« Reply #20 on: May 25, 2015, 12:04:49 PM »
I use a rebreather mask when doing serious sanding. My nose goes crazy if I don't. But I'm allergic to about anything that grows, so....

Yeah, same here Randy. I can't even mow my own lawn without needing two days recovery from the sneeze attack. I have to take a heavy duty steroid shot just to be able to function outside so I can work.
I've tried all the masks. Yes, they do help the allergy problem some, but they're so uncomfortable and cumbersome. That also sucks the fun right out of model building. I was able to get this far on the plane in the winter when there was much less other allergens flying around. Once February hits, I just can't handle one more thing to sneeze from.

Wayne, if you mean the Allegra D pills, I've tried them. Does nothing.  
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Re: F-86 Sabre build *new pics 12/1/14
« Reply #21 on: May 25, 2015, 03:14:46 PM »

 Clint,

 Nope, not the Allegra D. The ones I'm talking about are sold under Wal-Mart's "Equate" brand name, they are called Allergy D, 12 hour.
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« Reply #22 on: October 30, 2016, 01:06:15 AM »
It's been a while, but I want to get this done for VSC 2017.
'Bout ready for primer.
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Re: F-86 Sabre build
« Reply #23 on: March 13, 2017, 07:45:05 PM »
Clint and others have you thought about a down draft sanding table?  I think Windy shows one in one of his videos.   I have the parts to make one but haven't got around to it.  Now where I get a Round To It badge? H^^
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Re: F-86 Sabre build
« Reply #24 on: March 14, 2017, 11:44:23 AM »
Looks good, Clint. It looks good.
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Re: F-86 Sabre build
« Reply #25 on: March 14, 2017, 03:30:00 PM »
I have Bob's Lapiones Nats winning Sabre sitting in my cellar.
Great job on the build. Are you going to copy original paint scheme.
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« Reply #26 on: March 15, 2017, 04:24:59 AM »
I have Bob's Lapiones Nats winning Sabre sitting in my cellar.
Great job on the build. Are you going to copy original paint scheme.
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For the most part, yes. There's a lot of small decal lettering on the original that I probably won't bother with.

You could do me a favor and measure the "stars & bars" on the wing and fuse. Otherwise I'll have to estimate their size based on the old photos.
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« Reply #27 on: March 15, 2017, 03:44:15 PM »
Can it wait a week. I will be in NYC next week with access to the model.
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« Reply #28 on: March 16, 2017, 12:53:37 AM »
Can it wait a week. I will be in NYC next week with access to the model.
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Absolutely. At my pace it'll be a while before I get that far. Thanks in advance.
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Re: F-86 Sabre build
« Reply #29 on: April 12, 2017, 08:57:04 PM »

 Anything new here Clint?
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« Reply #30 on: May 21, 2018, 12:24:46 AM »
I guess a couple years off models is enough of a break. Guess I should start with a finish on this plane.
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« Reply #31 on: May 28, 2018, 09:42:41 PM »

 What's the latest on the Sabre Clint?
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« Reply #32 on: June 02, 2018, 06:10:27 AM »
What's the latest on the Sabre Clint?

Just have to paint it.
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« Reply #33 on: June 02, 2018, 08:47:55 AM »

 Cool, can we have a look?
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« Reply #34 on: June 03, 2018, 12:31:39 PM »
Cool, can we have a look?

Absolutely. Just as soon as there's something to look at.
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« Reply #35 on: June 12, 2018, 12:48:37 PM »
And when might that be?
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« Reply #36 on: June 17, 2018, 09:12:19 PM »

 Heck, I'd actually like to get a good look before the paint goes on, always interesting to check out a nice build.
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« Reply #37 on: June 24, 2018, 09:13:39 AM »
Heck, I'd actually like to get a good look before the paint goes on, always interesting to check out a nice build.

It's been primed a couple of times. Lots of sanding to do on this one.
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« Reply #38 on: November 08, 2018, 08:10:03 PM »
It's been primed a couple of times. Lots of sanding to do on this one.

 Still sanding Clint?  S?P ;D
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« Reply #39 on: November 11, 2018, 12:20:14 AM »
Still sanding Clint?  S?P ;D

Yes, and had to rebuild a few things that just weren't coming out right. Summer business slowed me down on it and right now I'm recovering from some surgery, but I'm thinking some color will be on it come spring.

I've lost some close focus in my eyes the last couple years so I'm just not seeing wood surface very well.
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« Reply #40 on: April 14, 2019, 11:46:57 PM »

Are there still Model Aero Clubs in your town ? .

Closest club to me is the Woodland/Davis Aeromodlers, about an hour away. In my town, I'm a lone wolf.

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« Reply #41 on: April 15, 2019, 02:13:48 PM »
I know the feeling. I'm the lone ranger where I live, too. There are some guys an hour away, but that's it.
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« Reply #42 on: April 15, 2019, 06:37:29 PM »
I know the feeling. I'm the lone ranger where I live, too. There are some guys an hour away, but that's it.

 Same here, and if I haul a-- nonstop our club field is a 1:45 drive north (one way) from my driveway, up I-35 and all the way through Minneapolis. That drive is a great motivation killer. 
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« Reply #43 on: April 15, 2019, 10:26:38 PM »
Maybe the three of us should just move closer to each other and start our own club. How ‘bout Idaho?  H^^
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« Reply #44 on: April 18, 2019, 10:34:31 PM »
Ok, just a quick one...
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« Reply #45 on: April 21, 2019, 09:05:15 PM »

 Very cool!  y1
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« Reply #46 on: April 23, 2019, 09:41:30 AM »
If youre having Eye Trouble , surely theres somebody in the neigbourhood , district , or STATE that can give you a bit of a hand . ! ?

Just Found This .



Bob Lampione did a big Pattermaster Based SABRE too , later . Think theres a picture or two on the Flying Lines site .

Are there still Model Aero Clubs in your town ? .

The big Sabre was a Shark 45. I was there, he told me.
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« Reply #47 on: April 23, 2019, 11:23:17 PM »
The big Sabre was a Shark 45. I was there, he told me.

I think you're right, but the Sabre in that pic is the original United based model.
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Re: F-86 Sabre build
« Reply #49 on: May 05, 2019, 12:50:08 PM »
Got basecoat white on it this morning. Hoping to start silver color coats this afternoon.

Edit: I was pretty heavy handed on the gun with the white. May wait a day or so on the silver.
« Last Edit: May 05, 2019, 01:40:16 PM by Clint Ormosen »
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