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Offline Fred Quedenfeld jr

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Classic for VSC
« on: September 29, 2023, 06:11:56 AM »
Are you Knowledgeable of the classic rules for VSC

I want to build a Larry Scarinzi  "Grey Ghost"

Can I add leading edge sheeting and cap strips to the wing?


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Re: Classic for VSC
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2023, 08:41:01 AM »
Fred,
The Grey Ghost is a fantastic ship. It was one of the few stunt ships, I saw Larry fly it at the Perth Amboy meet, it grabbed my attention and held it for the whole flight (at the time I was 14 and didn't fly stunt). Larry flew it fast and very crisp, the corners were blinding. I believe he had a Johnson 35 in it and used all its power, may have been on 62' lines. This wing is similar to the wing used in the El Diablo, kinda a pre-Ibeamer. I have built the El D and still fly mine in OTS.

My advice is this wing is very good as is but don't use MonoKote or any plastic type covering, use 4 - 6 mm silk or medium silkspan. Don't use a clear finish on the silk unless you have a very good UV resistant clear (not dope). I would build the spar first and add a layer of 1/64 plywood to the top and bottom, apply with slow epoxy and weight it down to cure. Round the leading edge, use hard balsa for the stab, seal the hinge line.

Don't know what you have in mind for power, but this is not a 4-2-4 kind of ship. Something like a Fox Combat 35, K&B Trop 35 on a 10x5 would do well or an OS FP 35 - 40 or even an OS FP25 on 9 1/2x4. If using a muffler on the Fox or K&B cut the prop to 9 1/2" diameter to reduce the load heat. Use good fuel and enjoy.

Here is the plan and article: https://outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=3423

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Re: Classic for VSC
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2023, 02:28:01 PM »
I love the "dogleg" wing spar!  Overall, it looks like an outsized VECO Redskin--which is a beautifully proportioned airplane. Another plane I always thought was of the same genre of the Ghost was the Lieutenant.

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Re: Classic for VSC
« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2023, 05:18:08 PM »
Yes, the Lieutenant is another very good non-flapped ship. It also was not a 4-2-4 kind of ship. One thing with this ship is to round the wing leading edge as much as possible for smoother level flight and kept the stab leading edge as sharp as possible. Here is the plan file that includes the article: https://outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=3876

Best,  DennisT

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Re: Classic for VSC
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2023, 08:42:19 AM »
I built several of Larry’s designs but not the Grey Ghost. Most of his .35 size models were built like I-Beam models with the leading edge ,spar,trailing edge parts put into openings in the body. He did not cut out the side and shove the wing in as most do. There was no planking in the center of the wing only a wide rib to connect the covering to. I built them as I-Beam with very narrow caps on ribs and they looked just like Larry’s. Last one I built was the Gay Devil,not sure about name.
 I went to his bike shop a few times to get vintage bikes he saved for me. I did the tour of the old workshop years before the video of it. It was not cluttered like in the video. He told me he thought the flexing wing was a good idea in the 1950,s. He must has a lot of 1/2x1/2 balsa as he used it a lot in all his models.
  He used his building method before the I-Beam was well known.
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Re: Classic for VSC
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2023, 06:08:24 AM »
Fred,

Are you going to put that GMA ABC Fox 35 in the Grey Ghost that you got from me?  Tom
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